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Oh, I completely agree. I was just trying to appeal to Brainey's nostalgic side.
Is it technically nostalgia if it occurred prior to your birth? What's the correct term for pining through rose-tinted glasses for a bygone era which one never personally experienced?
I would have assumed that you'd be in favor of reducing the power of the proletariat in electing the members of the government.
I mean, that's how it used to be back in the good ole' days, when only white male landowners could vote, and women & negroes knew their place. A time when gender was fixed and binary, homosexuality was a criminal offense, and the only safe space was the one between a person's ears.
I'm fairly certain that Braineack does experience a sense of anemoia for the days when voting rights in the US were limited to white, land-owning males who paid taxes. And that he would characterize this as a better system of governance than one in which voting rights are automatically extended to all, ballots are mailed to to every household, and one political party in particular is actively working to restore voting rights to those who have been lawfully disenfranchised due to prior felony conviction or even present incarceration, as well as extending voting rights to children.
I happen to agree with him on all counts. Those who consume from the federal budget, rather than contributing to it, should not have a vote in how other people's money is spent.
I'm fairly certain that Braineack does experience a sense of anemoia for the days when voting rights in the US were limited to white, land-owning males who paid taxes.
Oh, that was straw man, racism, Jim Crow and some other stuff wrapped in a subtle yet bombastic statement. And since we all know each other here, we mainly know which part is serious and which is not. There's a real conversation in there somewhere that could be pretty interesting.
Why not just go the Starship Troopers route and only allow those with military service to vote? You want a say in government, then put your life on the line for a few years.
Oh, that was straw man, racism, Jim Crow and some other stuff wrapped in a subtle yet bombastic statement.
I don't think you understand what a strawman argument is, and I'm not just saying that to be a jerk.
A strawman argument would be if I attack a point of view which someone else does not hold.
In this case, I'm not attacking anything. I'm stating a point of view which I postulate Braineack has, and supporting it.
Moreover, in order for you to believe that claim to be false, you'd need to assert that Braineack believes that the present state of electoral affairs in the US (everyone is automatically able to vote, ballots are mailed out unsolicited, dems pushing for children, illegals and the incarcerated to vote) is better than it was prior to the civil war, when there were laws which resulted in only land-owning white male citizens voting.
So, I need you to either clearly say that, or else go to Senior Panchos, have a couple of fish tacos and a Horchata, and then antagonize me about how good they were and how much I wish I was still in Carlsbad, rather than the present course of action.
Why not just go the Starship Troopers route and only allow those with military service to vote? You want a say in government, then put your life on the line for a few years.
In some ways, that would be better than the direction we're heading in.
But it would likely drive US military spending and foreign occupations even higher.
I don't think you understand what a strawman argument is, and I'm not just saying that to be a jerk.
A strawman argument would be if I attack a point of view which someone else does not hold.
In this case, I'm not attacking anything. I'm stating a point of view which I postulate Braineack has, and supporting it.
Moreover, in order for you to believe that claim to be false, you'd need to assert that Braineack believes that the present state of electoral affairs in the US (everyone is automatically able to vote, ballots are mailed out unsolicited, dems pushing for children, illegals and the incarcerated to vote) is better than it was prior to the civil war, when there were laws which resulted in only land-owning white male citizens voting.
So, I need you to either clearly say that, or else go to Senior Panchos, have a couple of fish tacos and a Horchata, and then antagonize me about how good they were and how much I wish I was still in Carlsbad, rather than the present course of action.
A straw man is setting up an argument that can be knocked down easily. For example, if you said only land owners or tax payers had the ability to vote, it would at least warrant discussion. When you bring in black people and the fairer sex then it just makes the whole package silly. Straw man. Or it was simply to denigrate. Like this;
A straw man is setting up an argument that can be knocked down easily. For example, if you said only land owners or tax payers had the ability to vote, it would at least warrant discussion. When you bring in black people and the fairer sex then it just makes the whole package silly. Straw man. Or it was simply to denigrate. Like this;
As for the rest, tl;dr.
I give up.
I'm clearly and unambiguously positing that representative democracy in the US functioned more effectively when only white, male land-owners were permitted to vote, and that Braineack would agree with this, than it does in an era in which welfare recipients, criminals, and the illiterate are not merely permitted but encouraged and aided in voting using public funds to do so.
And you're responding (to paraphrase): "No, you're making a stupid argument which is easily knocked down."
As soon as March, Canada could allow "mature minors" to die by euthanasia or assisted suicide without the consent of their parents. "Mature minors" is a loosely defined concept without a specific age; children who are considered able to make their own medical decisions would be able to request a medically assisted death.
Canada's already controversial euthanasia laws could expand to include children who qualify. This policy will nurture the country's growing culture of death.
As soon as March, Canada could allow "mature minors" to die by euthanasia or assisted suicide without the consent of their parents. "Mature minors" is a loosely defined concept without a specific age; children who are considered able to make their own medical decisions would be able to request a medically assisted death.
Canada's already controversial euthanasia laws could expand to include children who qualify. This policy will nurture the country's growing culture of death.
As soon as March, Canada could allow "mature minors" to die by euthanasia or assisted suicide without the consent of their parents. "Mature minors" is a loosely defined concept without a specific age; children who are considered able to make their own medical decisions would be able to request a medically assisted death.
Canada's already controversial euthanasia laws could expand to include children who qualify. This policy will nurture the country's growing culture of death.
What the hell are they doing up there? I heard this alluded to by someone and had to look it up.
Prolly the kids that 'take advantage' of sex reassignment surgery and puberty blockers at 12 will find this new program useful.
Life is messy. I'm dealing with kids and aging parents and cancer (not me) right now, and it brings into focus the quality and value of life. It's not easy. It's REALLY not easy. And it makes me wonder if abortion and euthanasia proponents are just lazy people. Oh, and they are the same people.
If you've ever read about Margaret Sanger, you'd know that her mom had eleven kids, and Margaret had to help--with everything--including when her mom would have miscarriages.. It clearly informed her actions later in life. Her "aha!" moment must have been, "Well why don't we just kill them before they're born?! Problem solved!"
Thanks for restoring democracy by voting for me, now for my first act, I'm granting myself emergency powers to dispell the separatist army. Ill give these authoritative powers back when I'm done, i promise.
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