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03-22-2018, 09:44 PM
To my eye, that woman crossing the road did not dart out nor did she come out of nowhere. She was just strolling across at a gradual, yet constant pace in a wide section of the road that was far enough away from any tight or blind turns. The way I learned to drive, it's the DRIVER of a car who is responsible (at all times) for operating the vehicle within their ability to stop for such an unexpected encounter.
The excuse of not being able to see her is similarly bunk; if you are truly in control, you certainly don't out-drive your headlights (i.e. what you can clearly see). Anyone old enough to have driven before the days of even halogen bulbs (let alone modern HID/ LED types), can likely recall how easy to was to outrun (even your high) incandescent beams without much trouble.
As such, I think a human driver, of prudent practices, could well have avoided that accident. That being said, I still think the woman was a complete idiot. Anyone foolish enough to trust their life to the (un)likely adherence of a driver to basic safety practices is essentially playing Russian roulette. At least the gene pool is stronger by one now.
The excuse of not being able to see her is similarly bunk; if you are truly in control, you certainly don't out-drive your headlights (i.e. what you can clearly see). Anyone old enough to have driven before the days of even halogen bulbs (let alone modern HID/ LED types), can likely recall how easy to was to outrun (even your high) incandescent beams without much trouble.
As such, I think a human driver, of prudent practices, could well have avoided that accident. That being said, I still think the woman was a complete idiot. Anyone foolish enough to trust their life to the (un)likely adherence of a driver to basic safety practices is essentially playing Russian roulette. At least the gene pool is stronger by one now.
However, I'd love to see the statistics on people killed in crosswalks vs. people not in crosswalks. The pure numbers are probably much higher in crosswalks because that's where people tend to actually cross the road... BUT, I'd put money down on a huge factor in that being that people in crosswalks DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO TRAFFIC... while people crossing in other areas pay real close attention. That was clearly not the case here, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say that this specific type of traffic fatality is the exception rather than the rule.
And now for the spin... In this case, we've been shown an extremely low-resolution video provided to the press by Uber that does it's best job to make it look like she "came out of the shadows" and that opens the door to siding with the driver who "wouldn't have seen her anyways." Shortly, we'll have people driving down that same road taking video with their iphones and posting it that show how much better lit to the human eye it really is. I wouldn't be surprised if this original video was doctored in some way too. Uber is fucked, and the media is gonna help... remember all the bullshit Toyota went through with it's "unintended acceleration" that was a total fabrication by "victims" in conjunction with an army of lawyers and the direct support of the mass-media. Uber now has to play that game... it starts with releasing a bullshit doctored video.
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03-23-2018, 02:11 AM
We have a term in Naval Aviation where somebody calls it like I called it... we say "No ******* ****!" I'm looking forward to the upper and middle-management cleansing about to take place in that company. This is shaping up to be a real story. The leadership at Lyft is probably ***** deep in a hooker-and-blow filled weekend of celebration.
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03-23-2018, 08:45 AM
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I'm honestly a tad surprised at how quickly the armchair analysts have sprung to life here in creating the conspiracy theories.
"If you look at this frame, and if you look at this frame... I don't know what to make of it, I'm just telling you what it is."
Also, speaking from the point of view of a frequent user of Uber, I find their service to be exemplary. I have used it many, many times in big cities like Chicago and NYC, and in "barely on the map" cities like Asheville, NC. The service has always been exemplary, with vehicles (and drivers) which are much cleaner and more pleasant to be in (and around) than medallion cabs.
"If you look at this frame, and if you look at this frame... I don't know what to make of it, I'm just telling you what it is."
Also, speaking from the point of view of a frequent user of Uber, I find their service to be exemplary. I have used it many, many times in big cities like Chicago and NYC, and in "barely on the map" cities like Asheville, NC. The service has always been exemplary, with vehicles (and drivers) which are much cleaner and more pleasant to be in (and around) than medallion cabs.
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03-23-2018, 11:08 AM
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03-23-2018, 11:16 AM
Well actually, they're mandating someone else do it so somebody must've gotten a shitty bottle at the last taxpayer funded dinner.
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03-23-2018, 11:20 AM
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It's obviously a conspiracy by X to prevent sovereign citizens having their privilege to drive cars taken away. Because the highly integrated and registered network for autonomous transportation to work will mean the gov't will know every single person is at every single point of the day.
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03-23-2018, 11:41 AM
It's obviously a conspiracy by X to prevent sovereign citizens having their privilege to drive cars taken away. Because the highly integrated and registered network for autonomous transportation to work will mean the gov't will know every single person is at every single point of the day.
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03-23-2018, 11:49 AM
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Yes, I know. It was sarcasm. I was agreeing with Joe that basically anytime anything happens it's because of the NWO/Gov't/Lizard people alliance meant to enslave all of humanity.
There was a story recently that your phone in "Airplane Mode" doesn't really turn off the radios and still tracks everywhere you are.
There was a story recently that your phone in "Airplane Mode" doesn't really turn off the radios and still tracks everywhere you are.
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03-23-2018, 12:45 PM
So let me ask you, having seen another driver's video of the actual lighting which exists on that road, do you still believe a human would not have done better in this instance?
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03-23-2018, 12:52 PM
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they lined ~18 candidates up on stage, and it was clear what the voter based wanted. a tall wall, a stronger economy and less govt. so what do the rhinos give them? no wall, and more spending.
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03-23-2018, 01:43 PM
+ more debt so I guess they match the average American in that regard. Spend it like you got it folks!
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03-23-2018, 01:56 PM
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How is a different camera at a different angle with who knows what aperture setting, etc, how is that any kind of valid comparison?
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03-23-2018, 02:01 PM
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but that camera isn't what the car is using to detect things anyway -- so that video does nothing more than show what happened. Also, the driver actually said I have no issues seeing people on the side of the road even in the darker areas.
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03-23-2018, 02:15 PM
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I'm not sure why people think software in infallible.
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03-23-2018, 02:30 PM
This is all about the SPIN. Totally obvious that Uber is playing games when some random bro with a cel-phone, shooting from inside the car, takes a clear and detailed video of the road showing plenty of visible light, which has better detail than the million-dollar optics package on the roof of the car. The video Uber released is designed to influence the viewer about what the driver and the car may or may not have been able to see, to give the impression that the lady appeared out of nowhere, and that the accident was her fault and not the fault of the driver. I don't even own any tinfoil and that much is obvious.
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03-23-2018, 09:17 PM
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Pro tip:
After having led the police on a high-speed chase, and then deliberately setting your own car on fire while you are inside it, do not then jump out of the car and run towards the police while wielding a steakknife and screaming loudly. It tends to make them a tad shooty.
After having led the police on a high-speed chase, and then deliberately setting your own car on fire while you are inside it, do not then jump out of the car and run towards the police while wielding a steakknife and screaming loudly. It tends to make them a tad shooty.
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