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Old 07-19-2019, 09:59 AM
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So we might view this as the Congress doing their job and preemptively helping the courts understand their desires? Shortens the
Law -> Rules -> Lawsuits -> Rulings -> Updated Law cycle.
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So we might view this as the Congress doing their job and preemptively helping the courts understand their desires? Shortens the
Law -> Rules -> Lawsuits -> Rulings -> Updated Law cycle.
I think it's reasonable to assume that this specific bill was created in order to:

A: Make a point, and
B: Create a situation in which Republican lawmakers who vote against it can be pilloried as enemies of the Constitution. Kind of like what will happen after the Senate rejects the $15 Federal minimum wage bill that was just approved in the House.

Just saying that it was in no way improper, and not especially redundant.
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Progressive Immediately Shouts 'White Supremacy!' At Every Image In Rorschach Test

July 17th, 2019






WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA—Friends and family members of local progressive woman June April were concerned about her. She had been seeing things and hearing voices in her head. The things she saw were mostly racism, white supremacy, and the patriarchy. She saw them even when everyone else in the room didn't.
So, her friends finally convinced her to talk to a trained psychiatrist. After meeting with Dr. Richard Bryers, the family's worst fears were confirmed: April is having hallucinations about white supremacy no matter where she goes.

During the session, Dr. Bryers held up dozens of different images of random inkblots. As soon as he displayed each image, April began to get agitated and shout, "WHITE SUPREMACY! WHITE SUPREMACY!" When asked to defend her logic, she often pointed at how the white paper was surrounding the black blot, threatening to snuff it out.

"This is clearly racism!" she said.

No matter if the image resembled a butterfly, a freight train, a Pokemon, the Batman logo, a map of Middle-Earth, a palm tree, or a hundred jelly beans, April's answer remained the same: white supremacy.

"Now, this might be hard for you, but I need to know: is the racism in the room with us right now, June?" Dr. Bryers asked quietly as the session neared its end.

The doctor diagnosed April with a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome along with an accurate case of Chronic Racism Delusion. He advised that she get off social media, talk face to face with the people she thinks to be racist, and "just chilling out about stuff a lot more."
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Yet more Trump Derangement Syndrome. This time not satire:


Trump’s presidency may be making Latinos sick





A new study found the rate of preterm births was 3 percent higher than expected among Latina women after Trump’s election.


By William Wan and Lindsey Bever
July 19 at 11:00 AM



Trump’s presidency may be making some people sick, a growing number of studies suggest. Researchers have begun to identify correlations between Trump’s election and worsening cardiovascular health, sleep problems, anxiety and stress, especially among Latinos in the United States.

A study published Friday using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found the risk of premature birth was higher than expected among Latina women following Trump’s election. The new study is particularly powerful, experts say, because unlike ailments such as depression or stress that can be hard to quantify, births come with hard data.

“You have a date when the baby should have been born and when it actually is. You have weight, length of stay at hospital. It’s extremely objective data,” said Kjersti Aagaard, an OB/GYN researcher at Baylor College of Medicine and Texas Children’s Hospital who was not associated with the study.


Complications such as low birth weight and premature birth have been shown to rise with the stress of natural disasters, racism and domestic violence. Friday’s study, however, is unusual in its suggestion that politics can be a risk factor for poor pregnancy outcomes.

More than two years after Trump’s election, researchers say they now have enough data to begin to analyze its consequences on American society and health. Political scientists have tried to measure President Trump’s effect on partisanship and discourse. Social scientists are studying whether Trump has changed people’s feelings or predispositions about racism, incivility and bullying. Public health experts have focused on health effects of Trump’s presidency among populations such as youths, women and LGBT communities.

Some of the research has been inconclusive, but the evidence is growing for a possible “Trump effect” on the health of Hispanics. And Trump’s intensifying rhetoric, such as telling minority members of Congress to “go back” to countries they came from, has given the scientists’ work more urgency.
“It’s not hard to imagine why there would be increased stress the past few years: the fear of raids, the deportation threats, the tweets every morning, the separation of children from parents. It’s still early, but we’ve seen enough papers at this point that suggest it’s having real life consequences on health,” said Luis H. Zayas, professor of psychiatry at the University of Texas at Austin. In recent weeks alone, Zayas said several scientific journals have asked him to review studies on the psychological effects of Trump’s child separation policy. “The number of papers is just going to be increasing because there’s often a delay with this kind of work. You have to let the policy play out, collect data in the field and makes sense of it.”


Much of the research on health effects examines physical and mental symptoms linked to increased stress. A Gallup poll recently documented an increase of stress, anger and worry among all Americans, which match or top the highest levels since it began tracking these negative feelings in 2006. Those who disapprove of Trump’s performance were significantly more likely to experience each of those negative emotions, the survey found.

The study on premature births, published in the American Medical Association’s JAMA Network Open, analyzed nearly 33 million births from 2009 to 2017 and determined that there were 3 percent more preterm births than expected among Latina women in the nine months after the election.


Preterm birth is the largest contributor to infant mortality. Extremely preterm babies often have trouble breathing, severe infections and can have developmental problems with their brains, eyes and digestive systems. Even moderately preterm babies often require longer stays in the hospital and more extensive care because of complications. Some negative effects persist into adulthood.

The study’s authors — public health researchers at Johns Hopkins, Stony Brook University and University of California at Berkeley and University of California at San Francisco — pointed out that their findings show the premature birth increase occurred after Trump’s election, but do not prove it was caused by the election or the anti-immigration policies proposed and enforced shortly afterward.

Scott Sullivan, a maternal-fetal medicine professor at the Medical University of South Carolina, who was not involved in the study, cautioned against blaming Trump’s election. “The study doesn’t show that. It’s shows a time frame, but a lot of things happen in a time frame in a country as large as ours,” Sullivan said, noting there could be a number of alternative causes, including changes to insurance coverage that could have hindered access to adequate prenatal care.


But any increase in preterm birth is alarming, Sullivan said. “We need to find out what the cause is,” he said.

The lead author of the study noted that it follows other studies that suggest a link to Trump. “It’s not just one piece of evidence,” said Alison Gemmill of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “I think we’re triangulating with all of this evidence that’s coming out, and it’s all more or less telling the same story.”

If anything, the new JAMA study may be underestimating the effect of Trump, said Nancy Krieger, an epidemiologist at Harvard’s School of Public Health who was not involved in the research. Last year, she published a similar study on births in New York that found an increase in preterm births among Latina mothers born outside the United States.

“There’s a price being paid for all the hateful rhetoric we’re hearing now,” Krieger said. “It’s not a game or just words. The words are meant to induce fear and fear carries a physical toll in our bodies.”


A study of nearly 25,000 births in Texas noted a correlation between anti-immigrant rhetoric during Trump’s 2016 campaign and Latina women waiting longer to seek prenatal care and seeking care less often.

Two other studies found a relationship between fear of immigration raids and negative outcomes among pregnant Latina women. In one, University of Michigan researchers studied birth records before and after a 2008 immigration raid at a meat-processing plant in Iowa involving hundreds of Latinos. They found that babies born to Latina mothers in Iowa in the nine months after the raid suffered a greater risk of premature birth and low birth weight.

Beyond pregnancies, other studies have found increased fear, anxiety and anger among Latino youth since Trump’s election. One pediatric study of nearly 400U.S.-born adolescents with at least one immigrant parent found increased blood pressure and problems sleeping. Another looking at more than 200 Latino parents noted increased psychological distress.


A paper published last year in the Annals of Behavioral Medicine found a correlation between deportation worries and higher blood pressure among Latina women, as well as a greater risk of obesity.

Taken altogether, some researchers say, the growing body of work suggests Trump’s short-term strategy of fanning immigration fears for political gains could be causing health problems.

“The sad thing is given the climate we’re in, I don’t think these studies will convince anyone on either side. We know what separating children from the parents does to children’s brains. But that didn’t stop it from happening,” said Zayas, the University of Texas professor.

Still, it’s important to document the impact of political decisions on public health, he said. “The research being done now is laying the foundation for advocacy, for legal arguments and for the future so that maybe this doesn’t have to happen again.”

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That's the stupidest thing I've read in a long time, and I've read Racer X's posts.
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Yeah, because nothing else in the world happened in 2016 except Mr. Trump became POTUS.
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I'm pretty sure Hurricane Matthew affected the life of un pregunta Hispanic woman en Miami in 2016. Also reasonably sure the California wildfires might have affected the life of a Hispanic woman who was con niño. Winter storm that rocked the Northeast called Jonas (some weatherman thought it was a good idea to start naming storms to be able to make them more exciting) prolly stressed a chicka or dos in Spanish Harlem. But no.

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That's the stupidest thing I've read in a long time, and I've read Racer X's posts.



Here's a Washington Post article about how campaign workers for Bernie Sanders (who, as a refresher, is running on a platform which includes a $15 minimum wage) are demanding that they be paid at least $15 / hour.

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Approaching maximum insanity:




(The above meme has been vetted, and proven to be true.)
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I like you.

Apparently you've been around a long time (Yeah, longer than Joe or Scott), but I've only seen you on line fairly recently.

Do you have a Miata, like Joe, or not, like Scott. Build thread?

On another subject, no Box Cutters on flights. Also, even though there was a lot of info on the interweb about relaxed knife rules, on the official TSA website, I see nothing about that, and they even have a separate line item in the FAQ section (IIRC) that says no to Swiss Army Knives.

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I haven't checked it recently, but some time ago I was looking at the TSA site because I heard they would allow you to once again carry nail clippers (I used to zip-tie my zippers shut and used the nail clippers to get them off upon reaching my destination). Nail clippers were still not allowed, however you could carry an eight inch knitting needle. I am not making that up.
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The dogpile-upon-Trump is starting to get desperately creative. The latest Appeal to Emotion fallacy:



Someday, a turtle may end up with a Trump-branded straw in its nose. Here’s why.



(Screen shot from shop.donaldjtrump.com)


By Eli Rosenberg
July 19 at 9:49 PM


Forget how you feel about the straw bans coursing through the country, about the seas filling up with plastic, the record temperatures being set around the globe, maybe even Trump’s comments this week about four minority congresswomen.

There is one thing we can all agree on: Paying $15 for 10 plastic straws is outrageous.

That was the price the reelection campaign for President Trump — a straw . . . man, evidently — was charging for a pack of straws branded with his name, as a way to stoke anger about the measures, and raise a little cash at the same time.

Plus, they are reusable and recyclable for consumers who are environmentally conscious but unwilling to give up plastic straws.

“Liberal paper straws don’t work,” the campaign site wrote. “STAND WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP and buy your pack of recyclable straws today.”

The straws — BPA-free and made in the United States — are more expensive than other straws on the market. A pack of 200 plastic straws currently sells for around $7 to $9 on Amazon. Extra-thick reusable straws go for about $8 for groups of 12 to 30. (Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post.)

The plastic straws ubiquitous at takeout-focused eateries and coffee shops are too small for most recycling machinery, so they end up in trash and often in waterways. As awareness about the accumulation of plastic in the ocean has grown — a cringeworthy video of scientists pulling a plastic straw from a sea turtle’s nostril went viral last summer — so too have outright bans on the item.

They have been subject to restrictions in Seattle, Miami Beach and many cities in the Bay Area in California, and some companies, like Starbucks, have announced plans to follow suit. But the bans are not always well-enforced.

They have also become a political football as well, another seemingly innocuous item suddenly electrified by the churning political divide.

In Florida, a state bill that was originally meant to ban plastic straws was changed in committee hearings to do the opposite — ban bans on plastic straws. It was passed by the state’s Republican legislature before being vetoed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in the spring.

Some conservatives have taken to posting pictures of themselves drinking with plastic straws on social media, an act of trolling and defiance in the face of liberal policies and environmental degradation.

Trump was asked Friday about the straw ban as news of his campaign’s straws began to circulate.

“I do think we have bigger problems than plastic straws,” he said. “You have a little straw, but what about the plates, the wrappers and everything else that are much bigger and they’re made of the same material?”

It is a good question.

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Originally Posted by chiefmg
I haven't checked it recently, but some time ago I was looking at the TSA site because I heard they would allow you to once again carry nail clippers (I used to zip-tie my zippers shut and used the nail clippers to get them off upon reaching my destination). Nail clippers were still not allowed, however you could carry an eight inch knitting needle. I am not making that up.
Knitting needles???? That is terrible. You could knit an Afghan!

EDIT: Yes, I know it is a bad joke and that, technically, Afghanistan is our ally (just not Taliban).
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Also, no comment on the gift basket thing? I thought that was really clever.
lol... it was very clever
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Yet more Trump Derangement Syndrome. This time not satire:


Trump’s presidency may be making Latinos sick



By William Wan and Lindsey Bever
July 19 at 11:00 AM
wow... esta es la pendejada más grande que he leído en mi vida... estos giripollas se deben de conseguir un puto hobby...
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wow... esta es la pendejada más grande que he leído en mi vida... estos giripollas se deben de conseguir un puto hobby...
Tú dices la verdad, mi amigo.
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dont worry bro, the democrats make up for our sins:

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Joke writes itself:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ber...kcELQ2cmJWMnQA

Bernie Sanders campaign announces it will cut hours to pay staffers $15 minimum wage, prompting mockery



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