Interesting conspiracy theory about Malaysian Airlines 370
03-19-2014, 12:34 AM
#23
Ok, I could be wrong, but I thought this whole evasion concept pertained to the possibility of it flying over land; more specifically India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. . I don't really see a plane with a 200' wingspan easily staying less than 500' over such varied terrain.
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03-19-2014, 08:17 AM
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Ok, I could be wrong, but I thought this whole evasion concept pertained to the possibility of it flying over land; more specifically India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. . I don't really see a plane with a 200' wingspan easily staying less than 500' over such varied terrain.
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03-19-2014, 08:24 AM
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Some have seen it flying low over the Maldives.
Missing Plane MH370: Maldives Island Residents Report 'Low Flying Jet'
Could it have reached Somalia etc (low altitude consumes more fuel?)?
But dealing with all the passengers is messy business.
Missing Plane MH370: Maldives Island Residents Report 'Low Flying Jet'
Could it have reached Somalia etc (low altitude consumes more fuel?)?
But dealing with all the passengers is messy business.
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03-19-2014, 09:25 AM
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Ok, I could be wrong, but I thought this whole evasion concept pertained to the possibility of it flying over land; more specifically India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. . I don't really see a plane with a 200' wingspan easily staying less than 500' over such varied terrain.
The point of my post was that there are ways to avoid radar detection even if you are within line of sight of the radar antenna.
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03-19-2014, 01:17 PM
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My real question is if the plane was landed somewhere, how hard is it to change it to look like a different plane. What all needs to be done so it would no longer show up as Flight 370. There were reports that Rolls-Royce was receiving engine information after final contact. So if that is true, if the plane was restarted wouldn't RR start getting new engine data?
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03-19-2014, 02:56 PM
#32
I am somewhat of a radar expert... kinda my thing.
So let's talk about a certain country for a minute. I'll give anybody a dollar if they can tell me which country has the most advanced long-range radar tracking systems in the world. It's not the US, because we have airplanes and ships and tons of friends and no threats against our homeland.
Anybody? OK, a hint... it rhymes with the female pro-wrestler Chyna, aka, the "Ninth Wonder of the World".
Anyways, China (the country... see, I spelled it with an "i") has a ridiculous series of radars stationed all over the country that can see the a good portion of the Pacific this side of Hawaii and the majority of the Indian Ocean. They're some very special long-range stuff (obviously not line-of-sight) that bounces the signals many times off the atmosphere/land and some very fancy computers to figure out the return signals. They were designed to find our battle-groups, and while a 777 isn't as big as a Nimitz Class, it's certainly as big on radar as a Frigate. I promise you they can see a 777 off the coast of Malaysia. We have the same kind of radars here in the US, just not as many or as good.
So my not-conspiracy-theory opinion is that China knows exactly what happened to the plane as long as it was within range of it's radar net...which if over water, it was. My guess is that China knows where it went down and is keeping quiet about it for the intelligence gathering opportunity and to see what the US does.
On a side note, the guys on duty that night at the radar facility had an unfortunate smelting accident and are dead. Also, due to an administrative error, all the tapes were destroyed when the Chinese police performed a no-knock raid on the wrong address (was supposed to be the laundrymat next to the radar office) and used 36 breaching charges placed all around the building instead of the normal single charge on the door. The police chief indicates the officer responsible has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation and will never be available for comment... ever.
So let's talk about a certain country for a minute. I'll give anybody a dollar if they can tell me which country has the most advanced long-range radar tracking systems in the world. It's not the US, because we have airplanes and ships and tons of friends and no threats against our homeland.
Anybody? OK, a hint... it rhymes with the female pro-wrestler Chyna, aka, the "Ninth Wonder of the World".
Anyways, China (the country... see, I spelled it with an "i") has a ridiculous series of radars stationed all over the country that can see the a good portion of the Pacific this side of Hawaii and the majority of the Indian Ocean. They're some very special long-range stuff (obviously not line-of-sight) that bounces the signals many times off the atmosphere/land and some very fancy computers to figure out the return signals. They were designed to find our battle-groups, and while a 777 isn't as big as a Nimitz Class, it's certainly as big on radar as a Frigate. I promise you they can see a 777 off the coast of Malaysia. We have the same kind of radars here in the US, just not as many or as good.
So my not-conspiracy-theory opinion is that China knows exactly what happened to the plane as long as it was within range of it's radar net...which if over water, it was. My guess is that China knows where it went down and is keeping quiet about it for the intelligence gathering opportunity and to see what the US does.
On a side note, the guys on duty that night at the radar facility had an unfortunate smelting accident and are dead. Also, due to an administrative error, all the tapes were destroyed when the Chinese police performed a no-knock raid on the wrong address (was supposed to be the laundrymat next to the radar office) and used 36 breaching charges placed all around the building instead of the normal single charge on the door. The police chief indicates the officer responsible has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation and will never be available for comment... ever.
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03-19-2014, 03:31 PM
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I am somewhat of a radar expert... kinda my thing.
So let's talk about a certain country for a minute. I'll give anybody a dollar if they can tell me which country has the most advanced long-range radar tracking systems in the world. It's not the US, because we have airplanes and ships and tons of friends and no threats against our homeland.
Anybody? OK, a hint... it rhymes with the female pro-wrestler Chyna, aka, the "Ninth Wonder of the World".
Anyways, China (the country... see, I spelled it with an "i") has a ridiculous series of radars stationed all over the country that can see the a good portion of the Pacific this side of Hawaii and the majority of the Indian Ocean. They're some very special long-range stuff (obviously not line-of-sight) that bounces the signals many times off the atmosphere/land and some very fancy computers to figure out the return signals. They were designed to find our battle-groups, and while a 777 isn't as big as a Nimitz Class, it's certainly as big on radar as a Frigate. I promise you they can see a 777 off the coast of Malaysia. We have the same kind of radars here in the US, just not as many or as good.
So my not-conspiracy-theory opinion is that China knows exactly what happened to the plane as long as it was within range of it's radar net...which if over water, it was. My guess is that China knows where it went down and is keeping quiet about it for the intelligence gathering opportunity and to see what the US does.
On a side note, the guys on duty that night at the radar facility had an unfortunate smelting accident and are dead. Also, due to an administrative error, all the tapes were destroyed when the Chinese police performed a no-knock raid on the wrong address (was supposed to be the laundrymat next to the radar office) and used 36 breaching charges placed all around the building instead of the normal single charge on the door. The police chief indicates the officer responsible has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation and will never be available for comment... ever.
So let's talk about a certain country for a minute. I'll give anybody a dollar if they can tell me which country has the most advanced long-range radar tracking systems in the world. It's not the US, because we have airplanes and ships and tons of friends and no threats against our homeland.
Anybody? OK, a hint... it rhymes with the female pro-wrestler Chyna, aka, the "Ninth Wonder of the World".
Anyways, China (the country... see, I spelled it with an "i") has a ridiculous series of radars stationed all over the country that can see the a good portion of the Pacific this side of Hawaii and the majority of the Indian Ocean. They're some very special long-range stuff (obviously not line-of-sight) that bounces the signals many times off the atmosphere/land and some very fancy computers to figure out the return signals. They were designed to find our battle-groups, and while a 777 isn't as big as a Nimitz Class, it's certainly as big on radar as a Frigate. I promise you they can see a 777 off the coast of Malaysia. We have the same kind of radars here in the US, just not as many or as good.
So my not-conspiracy-theory opinion is that China knows exactly what happened to the plane as long as it was within range of it's radar net...which if over water, it was. My guess is that China knows where it went down and is keeping quiet about it for the intelligence gathering opportunity and to see what the US does.
On a side note, the guys on duty that night at the radar facility had an unfortunate smelting accident and are dead. Also, due to an administrative error, all the tapes were destroyed when the Chinese police performed a no-knock raid on the wrong address (was supposed to be the laundrymat next to the radar office) and used 36 breaching charges placed all around the building instead of the normal single charge on the door. The police chief indicates the officer responsible has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation and will never be available for comment... ever.
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03-19-2014, 03:36 PM
#35
BTW, I really enjoyed going to the Chinese AF museum outside of Beijing. Lot's of Soviet hardware to check out. Every other MIG had a sign that said it had shot down an American "Air Pirate." LOL. I resemble that remark. The guards did not look pleased.
Who was it that said there were no pilots chiming in?
Who was it that said there were no pilots chiming in?
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03-19-2014, 03:56 PM
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They don't have to fully expose what their capabilities are. I am willing to bet that the DoD already has a very good idea of what their capabilities are. They could come out and say hey we have some "data" that shows that the plane should in "this" general area that is smaller then the continental US. They are on the worlds stage here and coming out being the ones to find the plane would be good for them in the worlds view. It would also show that yes as a country they have "concern" for their citizens, even if inside the country it is not true.
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03-19-2014, 04:15 PM
#37
Nope, I don't think the Chinese officials give a **** about "being on the worlds stage" anymore than Russia cared about toilets installed on the ceiling at Sochi.
All kidding aside, nobody in the media has a clue yet what happened to that plane... it's just the latest "thing" to give us a break from how fucked up our country is. In a few days when they find the wreckage somewhere and it turns out they just had a fire and crashed, Fox can go back to pointing out that Obama is the worst president in history and CNN/NBC/ABC can go back to blaming Bush.
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