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Old 11-19-2010, 02:46 AM   #41
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Sure some people get paid money in the military to do nothing, sure. They don't call it hurry up and wait for nothing. Not all of us are like that. I work 100+ hours a week. 6 days a week. I have 50 soldiers to care for. I go to the field for a week once a month, which means no contact really with friends/family. No warm bed, no TV, no computer. It doesn't really bother me, but some of you would curl up and die.

If you want what we have please join. See what we deal with. If you don't qualify, or don't want to kthxbai. I don't want you ******* sympathy. I do my job because I know what's out there.

There are a lot more things that need to be looked at before they start getting crazy with the military. That is the last thing this country has left. **** them off and game over.
This guy knows. There are definitely those that work their asses off for the pay, and there are those that don't. It's just a feature of the rank/pay system and it's made a little bit more fair by special duty pay. Myself, for instance: I made a lot more money before I enlisted, but I really wanted to serve (yes, there are still people who are joining NOT because of the economy). And the pay I get for the work I do right now is definitely fair. I'm not deployed and I'm still in training, so I don't have nearly as much responsibility as others in my shop, and I'm not in danger. Can I take a pay freeze? Absolutely. I just hope some of that money gets shifted over to the guys putting their lives on the line.

Our military and the technological innovations it spurs are what keeps our country on top (also NASA, another victim of a poor economy and lost vision for the future). I mean, ****, seems like military hardware is the only stuff still made in the USA and that's not even the case all the time anymore. Can we cut spending in the military? Yes, in many ways, and it's already happening. The AF has been doing force reduction for some time now, making things like PT tests tougher to have a reason to get rid of the personnel who just can't hack it, focus on process efficiency (incentives are out there for anyone who finds a better way to do something, six sigma training is encouraged). I imagine other branches have similar initiatives underway. There are ways to cut spending, I just don't think it should be done by cutting programs that put newer, better technology out there.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:27 AM   #42
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:16 PM   #43
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^ dude you get over $3,000 a month as an E4? And you say you don't make too much? What the ****? Are you married? When I was in, you had to be an E5 to get the $1,000+ BAH. Actually in Jax, FL it was around $900. I had a lot of friends who got married instantly just because we were E1-E3 and wanted more money. I said **** that. Never got that BAH.

I can't complain though. I get $1980 BAH from the Post 9/11 GI Bill. But still, don't say $3,000 isn't making too much. To me and most people under 30 years old, that's a lot of ******* money.
$3,000 a month isn't too much, especially in NJ.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:19 PM   #44
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^ I could afford ~$1,500 in car parts per month right now if I made $3,000 a month. Hm. I need another job.
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I'd never spend $1,500 a month on car parts, I'd buy a 911 or GT-R instead! The funny thing is, I always waited for the day that I could afford a more expensive sports car and now that I can, I have no desire to drop that much money on one. However, I might buy an Exige after I pay off my Mustang.
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:11 PM   #46
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Exige S is my dream car. I can't wait to drive it in GT5, that's about as close as I'll get to the real thing anytime soon lol
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:26 AM   #47
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^ I could afford ~$1,500 in car parts per month right now if I made $3,000 a month. Hm. I need another job.
If I made 1,500 more a month, today, I'd put 1,500 more a month in a saving account.
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Old 11-21-2010, 10:41 AM   #48
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If I made 1,500 more a month, today, I'd put 1,500 more a month in a saving account.
That's because you are a jew. Your kids are going to have more fun spending your money once you die then you ever will.
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I'm not trying to start an efight, but that is really ignorant.

That is like saying, you got a job at McDonalds to flip burgers, pay shouldn't be on your mind.

WE HAVE FAMILIES TOO! Why the **** shouldn't money be on our mind?

Sure some people get paid money in the military to do nothing, sure. They don't call it hurry up and wait for nothing. Not all of us are like that. I work 100+ hours a week. 6 days a week. I have 50 soldiers to care for. I go to the field for a week once a month, which means no contact really with friends/family. No warm bed, no TV, no computer. It doesn't really bother me, but some of you would curl up and die.

If you want what we have please join. See what we deal with. If you don't qualify, or don't want to kthxbai. I don't want you ******* sympathy. I do my job because I know what's out there.

There are a lot more things that need to be looked at before they start getting crazy with the military. That is the last thing this country has left. **** them off and game over.
I agree with you. I'm assuming you are a SERE instructor.

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I agree with FRT 2 posts above. Though a week per month in the field is nothing compared to 6 months on a ship or in the desert. The military is not easy unless you go in for a desk jockey job or get lucky and go to shore duty right off the bat for your first (and probably only) enlistment.
This is when he is NOT deployed, they also deploy a lot and do crazier **** than most of the military, assuming he is a SERE instructor. He teaches Flyers/Special Ops how to survive in the wilderness... amongst other things.
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Old 11-21-2010, 01:23 PM   #50
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That's because you are a jew. Your kids are going to have more fun spending your money once you die then you ever will.
This. He's lying anyway. I'm pretty sure Braineack spent buttloads of cash on his car. My dad is a Jew and makes six figures and his main car is a 1995 Corvette automatic with 150k miles on it. Stock. His kids (me being one of 3) will get all his money.

I have $4 and some pennies in my savings account. I live every day like it's my last.
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I have $4 and some pennies in my savings account. I live every day like it's my last.
aren't you cool!

Shueinds knows how little I am willing to spend on my car, or food, do you need me to take a picture of my fridge again?
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bet my fridge is emptier than yours lol. I'm not going to argue, you're probably in your 30s which explains why you might have money in savings and baller parts in your Miata.
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