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Originally Posted by blaen99
Are those gashes, welts, or just a really bad hairstyle Brainy?

stfu you ------- douche.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
stfu you ------- douche.
Seriously, you can actually tell wtf that is? I can't.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
stfu you ------- douche.

and yes, I realize you've never admitted to being a ------- douche and if we going line by line to every post you've ever posted, we probably cannot determine if you are used to clean vaginas.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blaen99
Seriously, you can actually tell wtf that is? I can't.
did you see the video they tried passing it off as "no evidence?"

typically when I'm broadcasting to million of americans, I like to make sure what I'm saying is accurate, but I'm not on NBC.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
did you see the video they tried passing it off as "no evidence?"

typically when I'm broadcasting to million of americans, I like to make sure what I'm saying is accurate, but I'm not on NBC.
Okay Brainy, ima be srs for a sec.

I am assuming you've never had any kind of head injuries from a fight before.

If those were really gashes/cuts/whatevs, blood would be all the ---- everywhere if it was in the time frame reported that that video was taken from NBC.

So, yeah. I'm calling shennanigans on your "Never been in a fight" antics.

P.S. I still can't tell wtf those are.

(Edit) Meant NBC, not ABC. Whatevs.
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he was reported to having his head slammed into grass, not concrete, and he was reported to as being cleaned up on the scene.

yes, it's hard to tell what's on his head, but it clearly shows something, where the previous video was blurred and the NBC logo was covering up most of the shot.

you also see the officer, in the video, examine his head.




Remember when Jarrod (leatherface24) posted pictures after his knife fight last week? he had gashes on his face and arm....but no blood in sight. ------- crazy huh?! it's almost as if soap and water can make blood disappear and the human body has this crazy ability to clot blood and stop bleeding out after a while.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
he was reported to having his head slammed into grass, not concrete, and he was reported to as being cleaned up on the scene.

yes, it's hard to tell what's on his head, but it clearly shows something, where the previous video was blurred and the NBC logo was covering up most of the shot.

you also see the officer, in the video, examine his head.




Remember when Jarrod (leatherface24) posted pictures after his knife fight last week? he had gashes on his face and arm....but no blood in sight. ------- crazy huh?! it's almost as if soap and water can make blood disappear and the human body has this crazy ability to clot blood and stop bleeding out after a while.
Bolded important part. Time frames don't match boo if those are what are being reported by NBC.
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are you saying the time stamps on the police survenlence tape are conveniently wrong?


i cant even find any real information on the web (like time of shooting or police call), because youre not allowed to give the facts in a case, you have to steer in one direction, the direction obama says.

EDIT: okay, police report says it's somewhere between 7:17 and 7:30. http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf

it also mentions he was bleeding from nose and back of head, and that zimmerman was heard saying he was yelling for help.

So when was the video taken? about 30 minutes later? Not enough time for you blaen?

and god they need to release the damn photos and xrays already, shut you race baiters up.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
Okay Brainy, ima be srs for a sec.

I am assuming you've never had any kind of head injuries from a fight before.

If those were really gashes/cuts/whatevs, blood would be all the ---- everywhere if it was in the time frame reported that that video was taken from NBC.

So, yeah. I'm calling shennanigans on your "Never been in a fight" antics.

P.S. I still can't tell wtf those are.

(Edit) Meant NBC, not ABC. Whatevs.
As a guy that has been in an a few altercations as a youth and fought a couple of times as an amatuer athlete, I am interested in your experience that makes you so confident in this perspective.
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
As a guy that has been in an a few altercations as a youth and fought a couple of times as an amatuer athlete, I am interested in your experience that makes you so confident in this perspective.
Ideological certitude.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
are you saying the time stamps on the police survenlence tape are conveniently wrong?


i cant even find any real information on the web (like time of shooting or police call), because youre not allowed to give the facts in a case, you have to steer in one direction, the direction obama says.

EDIT: okay, police report says it's somewhere between 7:17 and 7:30. http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf

it also mentions he was bleeding from nose and back of head, and that zimmerman was heard saying he was yelling for help.

So when was the video taken? about 30 minutes later? Not enough time for you blaen?

and god they need to release the damn photos and xrays already, shut you race baiters up.
The only person engaging in "race baiting" in this thread is you, Brainy.

As for actual time - it's impossible to do more than speculate, but see my response to Scrappy.

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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
As a guy that has been in an a few altercations as a youth and fought a couple of times as an amatuer athlete, I am interested in your experience that makes you so confident in this perspective.
As a guy that has been in a few altercations as a youth and fought a couple times as an amateur athlete, I'm pretty confident there's no way that someone with a broken nose and gashes that are claimed to be that big in the picture are having it magically stop without doing something more than letting them sit there.

Seriously, Scrappy, go look again at the size of the claimed gashes. I would go so far as to say they might require stitches. We're not talking little cuts - what are claimed to be gashes are ------- gigantic and are several inches in length each direction, assuming Zimmerman isn't a midget.

My beef isn't that Zimmerman did or didn't have wounds, it's that the picture isn't possible the way NBC is trying to present it. The EMT at the scene said Zimmerman had no significant injuries, broken ---- and a gash of that magnitude wouldn't get that answer.

I find it doubly ironic because Brainy was just whining about the same source being incredibly biased, but when it supports his viewpoint, BAM, it's god's honest truth.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qiRUs3nD supporting my statements, enjoy whining about these and trying to racebait more, Brainy.

P.S. Brainy, if Martin really did break Zimmerman's nose and did all that Zimmerman claims, there would be evidence left on Martin. Scrappy and Vash both will attest to this - if you throw a punch hard enough to break things, your hands aren't left undamaged.

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Originally Posted by Braineack
stfu you ------- douche.
Originally Posted by Braineack
and yes, I realize you've never admitted to being a ------- douche and if we going line by line to every post you've ever posted, we probably cannot determine if you are used to clean vaginas.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
The only person engaging in "race baiting" in this thread is you, Brainy.

As for actual time - it's impossible to do more than speculate, but see my response to Scrappy.
We will continue speculating on the due process of law, you can keep not-speculating on his racially driven hate crime.

You've failed to see that Zimmerman is not "a big guy", look at more current photos of him, the clean-cut ones where he's slimmed up and embraced his Latino heritage. The red coloring on his head doesn't have to be a gash, they are most likely abrasions and a broken nose could be from something other than a fist that a strike with the palm, knee, food, phone, whatever...as any experienced fighter like myself is fully aware. An abrasion or contusion is not a serious injury.

You're quote from the NY daily news fails to acknowledge that when someone is carrying a firearm, you're more likely to cover and protect the weapon rather than engage and open a vulnerability to lose that weapon and possibly have it used against you. Let's also not ignore that the NY Daily News keeps using that 6-year old picture of him as a 12-year old boy...more liberal bias of course.

This pretty much sums it up, again:



Just give it a rest and cut the guy some slack, you don't know the facts but you've already assumed he's guilty.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
As for actual time - it's impossible to do more than speculate, but see my response to Scrappy.

lol.

As for actual time:
Police were dispatched at 7:17.
They arrived at scene and NO_LIMIT_NIGGA was declared dead on arrival at 7:30.
At 7:53 Zimmerman was recorded entering the police station.


Yeah, all we can do is speculate on time. Because time in a non-existent thing, we are all just candles in the wind. There is a vast right wing conspiracy. This is a tax break for the rich. There is no liberal bias in the media. Republicans want to cut school lunch programs. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky. Republicans are mean spirited and want to throw the poor out on the street. Privatizing social security is risky. Trickle down economics does not work. I am against the death penalty, because an innocent person may be executed. However, I am for paroling convicted felons in order to give them a second chance.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Yeah, all we can do is speculate on time. Because time in a non-existent thing, we are all just candles in the wind. There is a vast right wing conspiracy. This is a tax break for the rich. There is no liberal bias in the media. Republicans want to cut school lunch programs. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky. Republicans are mean spirited and want to throw the poor out on the street. Privatizing social security is risky. Trickle down economics does not work. I am against the death penalty, because an innocent person may be executed. However, I am for paroling convicted felons in order to give them a second chance.
Tell me I'm not the only one who read "candle in the wind" and proceeded to read the rest of your post in rhythm with the song.

There is a vast, right wing conspirrrr-acy.
this is a tax break, for the rich....threisnoliberalbiasin the...media.
Republicans, want to cut school lunch...<cresc>I did not have sexual relations wtih that womannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

and so on.
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Originally Posted by blaen99
As a guy that has been in a few altercations as a youth and fought a couple times as an amateur athlete, I'm pretty confident there's no way that someone with a broken nose and gashes that are claimed to be that big in the picture are having it magically stop without doing something more than letting them sit there.

Seriously, Scrappy, go look again at the size of the claimed gashes. I would go so far as to say they might require stitches. We're not talking little cuts - what are claimed to be gashes are ------- gigantic and are several inches in length each direction, assuming Zimmerman isn't a midget.
Come on, blaen. Now you are just arguing to argue. A corner man can stop a broken nose from bleeding in less than 60 seconds and an EMT could surely have it stopped within the approximately half hour between the cops arriving on scene and him arriving at the station.

I agree - if the wounds were supposed to be open gashes, the bleeding would likely not have stopped and there likely would have been more blood stains. Cuts to the scalp are usually big bleeders.

To me, they look like large welts - the kind that come from blunt impacts rather than cuts.

That leads me to:

My beef isn't that Zimmerman did or didn't have wounds, it's that the picture isn't possible the way NBC is trying to present it.
I think we agree on this (that the video is inconclusive but could show wounds). Previously, it seemed you were saying the video definitely showed he did not have the wounds claimed.

The EMT at the scene said Zimmerman had no significant injuries, broken ---- and a gash of that magnitude wouldn't get that answer.
I do not recall seeing that anywhere and I feel like I spent a good part of yesterday morning reading through most of the first-hand reports available. Can you provide a link with the EMT's report or comments?

P.S. Brainy, if Martin really did break Zimmerman's nose and did all that Zimmerman claims, there would be evidence left on Martin. Scrappy and Vash both will attest to this - if you throw a punch hard enough to break things, your hands aren't left undamaged.
I haven't broken anyone's nose with a bare fist, but I do not accept as fact that the puncher's knuckles would show obvious damage, especially if it was a "one punch knockout."
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