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Old 03-21-2019, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by borka
ebay tacotaco wont work with an EFR, the compressor housing will hit the cars side rail
Pfft, like we don't have a fix for that.
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Originally Posted by achulz
What's a better option? 9.5:1? I don't want to go all the way down to 8.6:1, then I'm just running more boost for the same power level. That is why I chose 11:1, I know combustion temps can get very high but there's ways to work around that, WMI for instance.

Edit: I'm asking because I can change the order before it ships.



Aren't these the same thing?

https://fab9tuning.com/arp-head-stud-kit/
Here is your 11:1 with turbo build that all the naysayers in this thread are drooling over.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ase-car-92683/
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
Here is your 11:1 with turbo build that all the naysayers in this thread are drooling over.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ase-car-92683/
That motor died a horrible death. There's quite a few updates missing between the OP and the current post updated yesterday or today.

We're just haters, though.
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
Here is your 11:1 with turbo build that all the naysayers in this thread are drooling over.
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...ase-car-92683/
Is there a point here?

no one said that 11:1 pistons cant ever be used.

OP said he will primarily run the car on 93 gas, with maybe some e85 here and there. in which case 11:1 pistons is not the correct choice.
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Point is that he should go with his original build plan and enjoy how much fun that would be. 11:1 and low boost would be a blast and survive just fine on 93.
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Point is, you are wrong. 11:1 boosted on 93 is stupid, plain and simple.

There's one arena where that could be acceptable: DI cars.
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Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
Which motorcycle uses a Mazda B-series architecture 4-cylinder engine?
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
Focus RS: 9.37:1
Evo X: 9:1
Golf R: 9.6:1
STI: 8.2:1

you should start selling your idea man you've obviously figured something major out here.
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Lol at streetbike comparison. Off the shelf OEM engine making 200 hp per liter.

The exhaust exit location on an outboard boat engine is more technically advanced than a miata engine.
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Originally Posted by 208fabrication
Explain to me how I am wrong and explain how my 12.5:1 motorcycle runs amazing for 40,xxx miles on 87 octane at 2500+ foot elevation?
All engines must have identical design properties in your world. Why doesn't my Miata make power at 14,000 rpm reliably like my motorcycle did? Surely they are both engines! Maybe I am just a fool for not trying to rev my Miata so high. I haven't tried it and it just might work.

I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us.

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Originally Posted by sixshooter
All engines must have identical design properties in your world. Why doesn't my Miata make power at 14,000 rpm reliably like my motorcycle did? Surely they are both engines! Maybe I am just a fool for not trying to rev my Miata so high. I haven't tried it and it just might work.

I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us.

No *****, he won't.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
All engines must have identical design properties in your world. Why doesn't my Miata make power at 14,000 rpm reliably like my motorcycle did? Surely they are both engines! Maybe I am just a fool for not trying to rev my Miata so high. I haven't tried it and it just might work.

I'm going to recommend you do some reading on internal combustion engine design and theory of operation before making recommendations to the other noobs. Study things like rod ratio, undersquare versus oversquare engine designs, quench, tumble and swirl, combustion chamber design, the effects of cam duration and overlap on dynamic compression ratio, and definitely forced induction detonation characteristics relating to mechanical compression ratios. Report back your findings for us.
Ew that sounds hard though.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Ew that sounds hard though.
Oh it is, baby. Rock hard.

How about maybe just the difference between static compression ratio and dynamic compression ratio?

It would be nice but it's not necessary if 208 learns anything or not as long as he's not spouting antithetical bullshit to trusting and unsuspecting noobs.
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Yeah but with such low compression how do you overfill your pistons?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Yeah but with such low compression how do you overfill your pistons?
I use smaller air so I can fit more inside.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Yeah but with such low compression how do you overfill your pistons?
Originally Posted by sixshooter
I use smaller air so I can fit more inside.
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