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Old 07-23-2007, 02:16 PM   #101
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where are you getting oil for the turbo?
Hey fellow newby, read up on my posts...lol
Up to '95 the feed is in the "easy" location right under the turbo manifold....i even posted a sweet pic for every1 to reference...
Check out the pic of the block with the bright blue tape, and big arrow...
I think u have a 97, which means u will have to tee it off and run a long line...
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:04 PM   #102
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Hey fellow newby, read up on my posts...lol
Up to '95 the feed is in the "easy" location right under the turbo manifold....i even posted a sweet pic for every1 to reference...
Check out the pic of the block with the bright blue tape, and big arrow...
I think u have a 97, which means u will have to tee it off and run a long line...
OOOOOH thats right, you have an older year. My bad, for some reason I didnt think so.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:22 PM   #103
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Man guys I'm really upset/disappointed...I'm giving it 1 more day before I decide I got sold out for sure..but I dont see things changing in the next 24hrs...

That "big" order I placed was with Wideopentuning here on the forums..He was a super good guy, highly recommended by lots of members here. And he was GREAT while I was placing my $1100 order with him. Got the shipping upgraded and all to get it to me by Friday so I could work with the goodies over the weekend...

Anyway, he said he was sure of all the parts we ordered, and if there was any issues he'd fix them asap..So I got the order, and there were a couple things that needed ot be fixed (wrong parts). Nothing MAJOR, but def needed to be fixed and cant make it work with what i got.
Been after him since I received the order (the next day I pm
d him the issues), he asked for pics, and then I never heard form him again...Been pm'ing him and emailing him, but NOTHING.
At first i said maybe this is a part time thing, or school, or something...but to not even get a response back after all this time (approx 1.5+wks), on such a big order, and especially compared to how helpful and assertive he was WHILE I ordered, I only have 1 way to go with it...

I sent him my last communication attempt today, if no response by tomm I'm gonna go to atp and try and straighten it out myself...And will tell them WHY I have to. My fear is that because he's a dealer for them, not an employee i will get the runaround...but HOPEFULLY I can muscle my way thru if I have to...just wish i wouldnt have to deal with any of this...
**Anyone have his number?? Maybe PM so its not pulicized? I called him to PLACE the order, but cant find the #...

While we're talking about bad service, just tracked the DP and it'll finally be here tomm...pending any natural disasters...(1+week late)

Also still waiting for my BOV/ext WG (not using it anymore but have a buyer lined up) from the guy who I think may also be playing me...(2+weeks late)

3 bummers man...I was really hoping to have all these things settled by now...
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:38 AM   #104
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Damn dude, that sucks. Im sure he will make everything right, I doubt he wants to **** you over and lose so much business potential.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:00 AM   #105
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Kelly is always in and out. He'll make good.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:18 PM   #106
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Yea, my last email got his attention...still no reason to not communicate at all in a week +, but he did confirm that its a side thing...Anyway we've been playing a lil phone tag, but should be able to ge tthe wheels turning tonight...

Witchhunter is SUPER fast man...I overnighted my injectors to them (I get a big discount from work on NORMAL sized stuff), and the next day they were done. They will be shipping to me today, and I should have by Fri. And check it out, they said that they were in good shape, BUT 2 of them were stuck closed!!! Would have been impossible for me to have caught that till it was too late...Good call guys!

And I realllllllllly need some help...I got the DP yesterday (finally) from Begi. I hope I'm a complete idiot, but I cant get it to sit flush against the turbo
Seems like that seperator for the WG dump is too long or something...AND it totally interferes with the WG openining!!!!! I'm at a loss. I wrote to Stephanie last night, but I'm calling today...it just CANT be.....I refuse to believe that somone with the kind of rep that Begi has would lead to this kind of experience...

Still nothing on the BOV I've been waiting for all this time..it was the FIRST thing I ordered for my project!
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:17 PM   #107
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So grab some sheers or a dremel and cut down whatever is in the way.

Where are the pictures of the down pipe anyway? I want to see where you put the WBo2 bung.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:22 PM   #108
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No way man...this thing cost me over $400, besides I didnt mentionit, but even if that wasn't in the way the WG still couldnt open much at all because of the size of the opening for the WG dump pipe...

As for pics...not allowed to post any..., sux right in the middle of my thread..I hope it gets fixed soon! I have like 20pics from the last progress update that are reallllllllllll good, and I'm sure super helpful...Not to mention the pics that will be coming...
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:28 PM   #109
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you can become a supporting member and upload pics, or you can upload them to a hosting site and link them. i use imageshack.us all the time for pics.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:38 PM   #110
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Gonna try it out...whats a supporting member? $$$? If so how much?
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:37 PM   #111
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Well...Just talked to Corky himself...Convo did not go the way i hoped, with the issue being simple and resolved...
Basically he came to the conclusion that I have a "odd-ball" gt2560...and that the DP is fine. Mine has a built-in divider in the exhaust housing seperating the WG/turb...(basically exactly what begi puts on the DP, just already in the turbo)...I checked out all the info I could before/after buying the turbo, and everything mathced up to the gt2560 thats on the Garrett site...Has anyone heard of this?? Can anyone confirm that theirs does/does not have this?? Its cast into the housing itself, not somethign someone welded...I gotta clean it up, maybe I find some hidden welds, but I doubt it...I'm gonna so some researching and pic hunting when I get home to see if mine really is the "oddball" (cant now cuz I'm at work)....
So, I'd have to ship the DP back to him (4days min), he'd find a way to make it work (2days est), and he'd ship it back to me (4days min), ALL at MY expense...not to mention the almost 2 week time it'd take...Also, IF it was fixable with the same flange (says he's pretty sure) thats on there, no cost...if not then thats on me as well...
Although I'm not happy with this result, there's not much I can say. He said if I have a weird turbo and don't know about there's no way for them to know, which I agree with. However, when I ordered i asked 3-4times if there's ANYTHING they needed to make sure everything fit, including pics of the turbo, and I was told no...Also, there's no "specific turbo's" listed on the site...But again, not much of a leg to stand on and I'm pretty much stuck with this option,(this would add at least 2weeks and bring the Mani+DP total to over 1k) OR finding a different DP, OR different turbo, OR risking having someone locally "make it work" which sounds like the riskiest.....:confused
Although not really his fault, I gotta tell you guys that while I don't doubt his knowledge/expertise for a second, the customer service really sucks. I mean not even an ounce of "wow...let's see what we could do", more like "hmmm, dont sound like my problem but if you send to me I could probably make it work, course all the expense is on you seeing as the turbo is the problem"...I mean not even an iotta of caring that a problem arised after a customer spent almost 1g with them... At least ACT like it....

Still no BOV yet....AND gonna talk to kelly in a bit...

This is really starting to wear thin on me....Costs are rising to that of a kit, and parts gathering has all but taken the wind outta my sails...

I welcome anyone who could shed some light on this...
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:59 PM   #112
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Got Kelly on the phone...cleared that up...replacement stuff has been ordered...

Still those 2 pending issues (dp + bov)
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:36 PM   #113
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Wow that doesn't sound very pleasant. I mean being so big in the community you would expect them to be a little bit more attuned to peoples concerns. I mean naturally you would pay for everything but at least some sort of care to ease the pain of spending more money.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:41 PM   #114
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Exactly what I'm saying....
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:59 PM   #115
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Default INJECTORS ARE HERE (results posted)

Got the injectors back from www.witchhunter.com today.
From what i can see AWESOME!!!!
I mentioned it before, but 2 of my injectors were stuck closed (not flowing fuel at all)...Since I cant put the data sheet on here...here's the info:

Injectors 1 2 3 4
Tests: all done @ 43.5psi

Resistance 13.6 13.6 13.5 13.5
Leak Test (before) Pass Pass Pass Pass (Pass/Fail)
Leak Test (after) Pass Pass Pass Pass (Pass/Fail)
Spray pattern(before) Good Good Poor Poor (Good/Fair/Poor)
Spry pattern(after) Good Good Good Good (Good/Fair/Poor)
Static Flow (before) 112.5 115 0 0
Static Flow (after) 115 116 114.5 115
Pulsed Flow (before) 117 120 0 0
Pulsed Flow (after) 122 121 119 119.5
CC/Min @ 43.5 psi 460 464 458 460
Injector Balance Before=100% After=2.5%

If you need info on what this means, go to their site and look for Test Data Sheet, then scroll down....I read through it cuz I didnt know, and looks like I now have a set of sweeeeeet *** injectors!
Finally something goes right!!!!

***As for the DP issue, my nuts are in a vice...I'm bringing the top of the DP and turbine housing (saving as much weight as I can) to work with me. I'm gonna call him in the morning and ask him if he has any idea if it'll work with a 2860 turbine housing (looks identical to whats on my turbo), if he sounds confident off it goes....if he doesnt, then I might have to send it anyway considering I'm out of alternatives...

SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER ME, Can I continue with installing the drain lines, coolant lines, tightening everything on the manifold, EGR fitting, etc... without having to take it off to put on the DP. I have it, but cant try to install it due to the mismatch....This way i can feel better and maybe continue the build while I wait....
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:06 PM   #116
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Well my DP/turbo is en route to Begi..it'll be there Monday courtesy of a friend @ Fed-Ex...however shipping back as all on me.....I called up Corky, and explained to him that it looks just like the 2860 hosuing, and he told me that he's never seen a divider on a 2860 I offered to go onto Garrett site to show him what I meant, and he said he knew how, and just send it. Also said he'd turn it around same day/next day depending on what time of day the pkg arrives..all i can do now is pray to the turbo gods to help me out

As for the rest of the build, not a ton I can do without dp/turbo..Gonna try to finally get at the oil pressure gauge/sender swap, put my new rail/injectors in, and then...? Maybe shop for a clutch...try and have everythign here next week and have a huge weekend...

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**We never discussed the lighter flywheel option..Obviously I'm not looking forward to an extra $450 part, but on the saem token I dont want to regret it AFTER I install the clutch...I've heard that LW flywheels are no for turbo cars since they drop the revs, which drops the boost...But also my boost should come on real quick....What do you guys think???
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Old 07-28-2007, 07:34 PM   #117
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Default Piccccccsssssssssss!!!!!!!!

Ok I'm like losing my mind...
I decided to stop being a cheap *** and become a "supporting member so I could post pics here and continue the documentation of my build, all in 1 place, so tons of people could literally walk thru step by step and see what its liek goign at this as a newby...

Sonn as I go to upload pics, I'm told I'm at my max allowance, and have to delete my older pics in order to post new ones....

So, I had no choice but to do a crappy cardomain page to get the pics up...
here's the link...you guys have seen everything from pages 1-3...the fun starts on page 4, scroll down a lil depending on what part ur up to, and I tolld the liberty of copying and pasting the "step by step" explanations I've posted here on the build, not any part of our convos...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2727340/1

Seriously super upset that I paid for a year subscription and still cant finish my build thread...
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:21 PM   #118
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Dude, you shoulda used photobucket to host your pics.

As for the lighter flywheel I am curious too. I hear it makes the car a bitch to drive in traffic and can also cause the car to stall very easily when getting off the gas very quickly while in neutral. That and it will require more slipping of the clutch to get the car moving and if you over do it you can overheat the flywheel and warp it.

What I also, think, I found is that there are two different light weight flywheels a really light 9lb and a lighter 11lb. I think stock is 14lb? So maybe it would be wiser to go for a lighter one but not too light.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:37 PM   #119
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I use imageshack for most of my pics and put the tags on either side of the link. Then the pic shows up full size with the text, and it doesn't use any b/w from this site.

<edit> the tags didn't show up. HMM [ I M G ] before the link and [ / I M G ] after the link, but without the spaces.

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Sam, after trying stock, some what light, and super light flywheels, I gotta say get the lightest flywheel and clutch in there you can afford. It will be a little trickier for you the first couple times you engage the clutch, but you will get used to it immediately. I absolutely love how fast the light clutch assembly allows the engine to gain speed. It also makes shifting easier as it rev matches itself. IMO, the bigger thing you want to avoid in a daily driver is a super heavy clutch pedal, but most people with the heavy PP ACT XT say they got used to it quickly and love it. I have the HD and it's noticably heavier than stock, and I have a bad left leg, but I got used to it and a 14lb f'wheel within 20 miles.

If you need hard data, look in last month's GRM for an article about reducing rotating mass in their Mustang GT. I don't have it in front of me, but my memory says they put in a new clutch and flywheel package that was 11 lbs lighter than stock. Their result was .4 seconds faster 0-60 (from memory, feel free to double check me). that's huge!

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