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ramensoop 03-21-2016 11:53 PM

Exocet EFR
 
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Finally got my frame bolted to the miata chassis today.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458618834

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458618834

The original plan began with an Artech manifold and downpipe for the EFR, but it doesn't fit the Exocet (not Abe's fault).

Only about 1/4" clearance here (less if i clock the housing in either direction), and the wastegate interferes with the "hood"

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458618834

But atleast the downpipe fits I guess

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458618834

So now I have to scrounge up a few posts to offer up the combo to another loving home.

I sent an email to Abe to see if he thinks just the straight log manifold would work, I have a good bit of room to work with just not where this manifold ended up putting the turbo.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458618834

shuiend 03-22-2016 07:46 AM

TSE manifold might fit it. This way you could keep your turbo.

boileralum 03-22-2016 04:29 PM

I have a SR20 T25 I'll trade you straight up ;)

Looks like you just need a different manifold design to have the WG Actuator clocked 90*. Is that Rhino liner on your floor pans? Looks nice! I am just using some skateboard grip tape on mine for cost & time savings.

rleete 03-22-2016 04:59 PM

Is the front on stands? It looks like it's sitting really high.

Girz0r 03-22-2016 05:00 PM

IMO, why not try and see if the TSE unit is any better :dunno:

Though I do <3 Abe's work :)

ramensoop 03-23-2016 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 1317626)
I have a SR20 T25 I'll trade you straight up ;)

Looks like you just need a different manifold design to have the WG Actuator clocked 90*. Is that Rhino liner on your floor pans? Looks nice! I am just using some skateboard grip tape on mine for cost & time savings.

I may look into just doing a pie cut on the manifold and rotate the flange a bit, which would move the wastegate and bring the turbo closer to the block. Then I'd have to modify the downpipe also. Seems better just to start from scratch.

The floors and front bulkheads are rhino liner, I was going to have them powder coated and use the grip tape but the guy did it for the cost of material only. came to $100 and it was done in a few hours.


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1317629)
Is the front on stands? It looks like it's sitting really high.

I don't have coilovers yet so I have 2x4s supporting everything, it does sit a little high like that.


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1317630)
IMO, why not try and see if the TSE unit is any better :dunno:

Though I do <3 Abe's work :)

Thought about it, but it looks like it puts the turbo in about the same spot vertically.

Girz0r 03-23-2016 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by ramensoop (Post 1317738)
Thought about it, but it looks like it puts the turbo in about the same spot vertically.

Negative,

Moves it forward and up away from that strut area :dealwithit:

Not sure with the exo though, you seem to be the first as far as I know :likecat:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1444197497

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1444197497

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456287463

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456706463

ramensoop 03-23-2016 11:21 AM

Thanks for the pictures, but looks like the wastegate will still be an issue. Gives me some ideas tho.


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1317493)
TSE manifold might fit it. This way you could keep your turbo.

missed your post earlier, I'm determined to use this turbo...will figure something out

boileralum 03-23-2016 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1317769)
Negative,

Moves it forward and up away from that strut area :dealwithit:

Not sure with the exo though, you seem to be the first as far as I know :likecat:



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456706463

Can you put a level on the WG can and the VVT actuator or otherwise measure which side is higher/ by how much? I have an n/a VVT engine in my Exocet I am building, but am researching future turbo upgrades. I already have to raise the hood to clear the VVT solenoid, but curious about the actuator clearance w/ the TS manifold. Thanks!

gesso 03-23-2016 12:15 PM

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My chassis might be a bit different than yours (EU lightweight Exocet vs US Exocet) but I'll try to remember to measure from the flange to the shock tower and the offset this evening (as I have the TSE manifold in mine).

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458749753

ramensoop 03-23-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 1317816)
Can you put a level on the WG can and the VVT actuator or otherwise measure which side is higher/ by how much? I have an n/a VVT engine in my Exocet I am building, but am researching future turbo upgrades. I already have to raise the hood to clear the VVT solenoid, but curious about the actuator clearance w/ the TS manifold. Thanks!

I just checked mine again, and the problem is where the wastegate sits in relation to the "cowl" on the exocet's hood. I think your VVT actuator will sit inside the raised area and will minimize the amount you'd have to raise it.

I placed a 2" roll of painters tape on top of the valve cover and that gave me about a 1/4" of clearance with the wastegate, but way too much gap on the sides.

But after looking at it, it seems like if i just go with a log manifold and put the turbo flange between the front two runners it will fit nicely. Just need to see how it looks with the steering in place.

boileralum 03-23-2016 01:28 PM

Do you have the US bonnet or the UK bonnet? The US version has a bigger (taller and wider, IIRC) cowl, but I am not sure it extends over to where the actuator is.

ramensoop 03-23-2016 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by boileralum (Post 1317850)
Do you have the US bonnet or the UK bonnet? The US version has a bigger (taller and wider, IIRC) cowl, but I am not sure it extends over to where the actuator is.

US. I'll try to take more pictures tonight.

ramensoop 08-05-2016 09:39 PM

ok so now that i'm posting in the correct thread...

It's been a few months, got the new log setup from Abe. Oil and water lines are done, as well as the fuel lines. Replaced the stock pump with a DW200, ID1000 injectors, and a new fuel rail.

Next week I should be able to get the radiator and intercooler mounted and piping done. *ignore the stuff holding the turbo on, just temporary

Pics

-4 oil, -6 water
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...77abda7733.jpgOil and water feed, brake/clutch lines also
-8 drain
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...191abc80ba.jpgDrain line

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8a0e0c98cf.jpgFuel rail to regulator on the firewall

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...cce223668d.jpgDW200 to -6 feed/return

CalebMars 08-06-2016 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by ramensoop (Post 1351836)



What's the deal with that valve cover? I've never seen one squared off like that.

ramensoop 08-06-2016 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by CalebMars (Post 1351877)
What's the deal with that valve cover? I've never seen one squared off like that.

It's from a protege

ramensoop 08-12-2016 01:16 PM

Intercooler and radiator mocked up with zip ties, might make a few adjustments to the piping but you get the idea.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ea20d2eb9a.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d5fb7d97e9.jpg

Girz0r 08-12-2016 01:44 PM

Surprised you're doing all of this in the space of a apartment garage :likecat:

Starting to come together too, the new manifold looks nice.

ramensoop 08-12-2016 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1353355)
Surprised you're doing all of this in the space of a apartment garage :likecat:

At one point I was spread between three separate garages, I'm down to two now. Definitely have to get creative at times, but the space has gotten me through 3 bike builds and now the car.

ramensoop 08-22-2016 09:45 PM

fancy wastegate with a 5psi spring. will run no boost control on just the spring until I get the other block built up and swapped in.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ac81509f9e.jpg


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