Notices

Innovate's new wideband / boost controller

 
Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 8, 2014 | 03:23 PM
  #1  
Matt Cramer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,332
Total Cats: 67
Default Innovate's new wideband / boost controller



Check out what just arrived from Innovate Motorsports - the SCG-1! It's a wideband controller and a boost controller, plus a boost gauge and a shift light - all in one package. Since it knows your air/fuel ratio, it will automatically cut boost back to the minimum if it senses you've gone lean. This gadget works on its own. Great for someone who has a turbo car and wants to turn up the wick a little. You can order them here:

Innovate SCG-1 wideband gauge / boost controller
Attached Thumbnails Innovate's new wideband / boost controller-innvt-3882_med.jpg  
__________________
Matt Cramer
www.diyautotune.com
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 8, 2014 | 10:15 PM
  #2  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by Matt Cramer


Check out what just arrived from Innovate Motorsports - the SCG-1! It's a wideband controller and a boost controller, plus a boost gauge and a shift light - all in one package. Since it knows your air/fuel ratio, it will automatically cut boost back to the minimum if it senses you've gone lean. This gadget works on its own. Great for someone who has a turbo car and wants to turn up the wick a little. You can order them here:

Innovate SCG-1 wideband gauge / boost controller
What type of boost controller is it? How does it compare to the EBC that a MS3x offers?
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 10:29 AM
  #3  
Matt Cramer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,332
Total Cats: 67
Default

It's closed loop. It is fairly basic - doesn't have things like timed boost from launch or some of MS3's other advanced features. More like an MS2 boost control. We haven't yet done a side by side comparison for consistency and ease of tuning.

This package is pretty useful for someone who has a factory turbo car and wants to give it a bit more kick by adding two basics - a wideband and a boost controller - in one step, but is not as powerful as the options you'd get from MS3.
__________________
Matt Cramer
www.diyautotune.com
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 10:33 AM
  #4  
Leafy's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,491
Total Cats: 105
From: NH
Default

So this is basically innovative's answer to the aem failsafe wideband + boost.
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 10:33 AM
  #5  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

lol basically.

Competition is always a good thing though
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 10:36 AM
  #6  
concealer404's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,917
Total Cats: 2,206
Default

So what i'm reading is... i can use this to set boost to ALLOFIT, and if it goes lean, it'll ramp boost back.

I like this. Can start out tuning for max boost then come down until it's not lean anymore, instead of the other way around.

Right? RIGHT?
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 11:42 AM
  #7  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

I like the gauge. They selling one like that separately? Not that it matters since they'll price it right out of the market, like they did with the DB gauges. It was cheaper to buy the LC1 with the DB gauge, then sell the LC1 for $30 less than you paid for it, instead of paying $90 for a $30 gauge alone.
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 11:46 AM
  #8  
Jeffbucc's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,764
Total Cats: 951
From: Cedar City, UT
Default

I dunno, in my eyes I see it as complicating the issue by having TS for tuning and then using your Innovate to control boost separately, instead of TS for both. Unless I didn't read it closely enough and you can control the innovate EBC through TS.
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 11:47 AM
  #9  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

you wouldn't use this device with an aftermarket ecu.
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 11, 2014 | 12:07 PM
  #10  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

For a standalone boost controller I recommend sensing the boost in the intake piping just before the throttle body. This way it won't try to hit full boost at part-throttle.
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
Old Aug 12, 2014 | 08:03 PM
  #11  
Ben's Avatar
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
From: atlanta-ish
Default

Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
I dunno, in my eyes I see it as complicating the issue by having TS for tuning and then using your Innovate to control boost separately, instead of TS for both. Unless I didn't read it closely enough and you can control the innovate EBC through TS.
This solution is really more intended for those who don't have a standalone that can control boost.
__________________
Chief of Floor Sweeping, DIYAutoTune.com & AMP EFI
Crew Chief, Car Owner & Least Valuable Driver, HongNorrthRacing

91 Turbo | 10AE Turbo | 01 Track Rat | #323 Mazda Champcar

Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Leave a poscat 0 Leave a negcat
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
Apr 12, 2021 04:21 PM
Trent
WTB
2
Oct 1, 2015 12:15 PM
shooterschmidty
Engine Performance
8
Sep 30, 2015 10:28 PM
btabor
ECUs and Tuning
10
Sep 28, 2015 05:33 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:41 PM.