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Old 09-13-2010, 06:45 PM   #21
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That map is so conservative, it should nto be detonating, and it clearly is based on that dyno graph.
Im going to ask again because you didnt respond the first time
What plugs are you running?
What octane are you running?

Also, there is no way to adjust the timing on a 99, so I have no idea how the base timing could be off.
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i'm running the stock plugs (new but stock)
I'm running 93 pump gas

Also where do you hook up the + for the timing light? Battery is kinda far...
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Also, there is no way to adjust the timing on a 99, so I have no idea how the base timing could be off.
you still have to set it.. on MS there is an offset angle that you add or subtract until it matched up to 10* (or whatever you set the static timing as)... then you switch back to normal non static timing map. pretty sure when you read about the 99 timing they mean theres no way to alter timing thru hardware on stock ecu.

ghetto as hell but I used jumper cables to hook it up to the battery, lol
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Not with an adaptronic
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That'll work, I don't have that button. :P
You can connect the light to the battery lug on the alternator.
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Old 09-13-2010, 07:33 PM   #26
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That'll work, I don't have that button. :P
You can connect the light to the battery lug on the alternator.
this is what I used on y8s 01 when we double checked his timing with his adaptronic last weekend.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:36 PM   #27
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Isn't there a blue plug you can use? Or is my car the only one with that. Also, stock plugs are 5 heat range. I would go to atleast a 6. I roll the 7's.
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BKRE7 best bang for the buck. Please don't use 5 heat range and try to boost. Use the 7s as a simple starting place... anyone that says otherwise I'll slap with my giant ****. If you like that... I'll use an aluminum bat instead... same size... less intimate.
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Yes, 7's ftmfw.
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:07 PM   #30
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I bet the plugs are the cause of this, because nothing about the tune or anything else looks like it should be causing detonation like that.

Replace the plugs and see if it suddenly gets faster.
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6 psi, 5th gear (6 speed tranny). The tunning was done by Travis from Boundary Engineering.


Is there a reason why he tuned your fuel in ms instead of VE? I thought VE was supposed to be better.

Did he tune anything else like your cranking? Can you zip your map so I can take a look at it in Wari?
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:29 AM   #32
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No i do not have a reason why its in ms vs Ve, Is there a way to directly convert it if its better? He started in Ve but converted it to MS. No i do not know the reason why.
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it doesn't matter.

mine is in ms as well

your map looks weird as hell to me though.
its so linear, like a supercharger map.

absolutely NOTHING like mine or anyone elses I've seen using a turbo
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yes that does not make any sense to me either. For example why is it that i'm running more fuel on some lower cells than i'm running on the higher cells?
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it doesn't matter.

mine is in ms as well

your map looks weird as hell to me though.
its so linear, like a supercharger map.

absolutely NOTHING like mine or anyone elses I've seen using a turbo
Idk with mild cams I usually see pretty linear fuels. The only time Ive seen big ramp ups is people running more agressive NA cams with their turbo setups.

edit: oh I see what your talking about. Its real flat.
That is pretty odd...
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I just assume its because i'm using a 2554 and it spools up real low. I'm probably wrong though.
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Idk with mild cams I usually see pretty linear fuels. The only time Ive seen big ramp ups is people running more agressive NA cams with their turbo setups.

edit: oh I see what your talking about. Its real flat.
That is pretty odd...

Uhm, that map is the strangest thing I have seen... I dunno how it's running good at all; but heey.... who knows, right?

So there is a sorta well known 4K RPM issue with our knock sensors picking up the "noise" of the engine. Did you compensate for this in your knock settings?

Since I'm running something close... give this map a shot.... it needs a little love to make it perfect; but it will get you a whole f'load closer.

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no i do not know what Travis did as that goes. He did say he felt the ping though not just what the sensor told him.

hhmm why does begis recomended turbo plugs say BKR5E-11 instead of 6-7?
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I pick up a TON of fake knock around 4800 rpm.
Had to adjust my knock table to almost 120 in that region.

And here's what my fuel table looks like:



Most people's looks like mine.

Yours is way weird.


Does your tuner know what he's doing?
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I thought it was weird that it was so linear and thought mine was messed. Glad to see yours is almost identical to my curve ^
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