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nbfather 11-09-2017 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1450576)
DW300 would probably do it. They updated the 300 a couple of years ago and the flow is very close to the 400-E85 at high pressure. I swapped because my DW300 failed a couple of weeks ago (complete failure, just stopped turning on). I had no indication that the Walbro pump was anywhere near the limit - the VE table only rises 10% or so from 200kpa to 300kpa since I have a boost reference. Fuel pressure on the hero pass was 84-85psi.

Valves and headwork would be very beneficial at this power level. It won't make a big difference on torque, but it would probably have pushed this setup north of 500whp.

Do you think the 6758 have enough air to reach 500hp?
One sick turbo if it does!

Head work would cause a big drop in the boost required at the same HP?
Any IAT drop is always nice at the track!
Would allow a big jump in the pump gas tune as well I would think?

Killer build Andrew!!

TurboTim 11-09-2017 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1450258)
Same exact mechanical setup that did 297/272 a couple of weeks ago on gas with the exception of the fuel pump (swapped DW300 for Walbro 455-E85).

The 297/272 was weak. Like circa 2007/GT2560R/RX7 550's/MS1/no VVT weak. Good to see this same hardware being pushed proper. Exciting times! Paul recently acquired another miata, I have been pushing him your way.

Nice job Andrew.

RE: T5 trans: it would handle anything you can throw at it in a car as light as a miata. But with the bolt-in BMW trans option, why would you go with a T5?

nitrodann 11-10-2017 12:44 AM

The head is not ported in any way and has stock cams and still makes 10hp/psi?

Its extremely strong, in my opinion. The turbo must be extremely free flowing on the exhaust side.

Dann

Leafy 11-11-2017 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1450869)
RE: T5 trans: it would handle anything you can throw at it in a car as light as a miata. But with the bolt-in BMW trans option, why would you go with a T5?

Will it? I know a few guys that have broken them and gone to TKO500s with just bolt on 5.0s on factory 5 cobras that weight in the 2400lb neighborhood. I'm personally worried about mine, but it would get built into a dogbox is it blew. Also supposedly the T5s dont like shifting above 6500rpm. I havent run into that problem, might be because I have a twin disk or might be because I dont have a tach and I have no idea what rpm I shift at.

StealthNB 11-11-2017 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1450555)
Hyper turned him down. Too busy sackriding 1.6-boosting child molesters.

Hyper is tuning his NB...

18psi 11-11-2017 03:55 PM

:laugh:

Chiburbian 11-12-2017 06:35 PM

Andrew, did you ever document your fuel system build? I am planning out my winter purchase and want to copy what you did (or maybe just buy it all from you?).

You kept it returnless correct? Did you put the e85 sensor in the engine bay or in the fuel filter location like the Flyin' Miata kit? Would you be able to talk me through it via email if not on MT.net?

18psi 11-12-2017 06:38 PM

its all in his thread

Chiburbian 11-12-2017 06:57 PM

Ok, looking now. I must have missed it. Edit: crap, I found it, and I saw it back when it was posted and have been trying to find it ever since. Sorry for mudding up your thread. Feel free to delete both posts.

Savington 11-12-2017 09:52 PM

Fuel system starts at post #331 here: https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...t-84579/page6/

Cliffs notes: DW300 or Walbro 450-E85 in the tank, 10awg milspec wired to bypass the OEM connector with bulkhead isolators, dedicated 30A relay wired straight to the battery. Gates $20/ft submersible E85 hose inside the tank, Earl's Vaporguard everywhere else. Fuelab 818 filter replaces the stock unit. Fuelab 535 regulator at the back of the car, OEM lines forward of the rear bulkhead, OEM fuel rail, ID1000s. I sell all of it.

sonofthehill 11-13-2017 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1451390)
I sell all of it.

:rofl:

That's where I plan to get my fueling stuff.

18psi 11-13-2017 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1451390)
I sell all of it #ALLOFIT

fixed.
Carlos, hurry up and buy allofit to run allofit

sonofthehill 11-13-2017 11:54 AM

I am driving for a minute, when it's dry out anyway

Savington 11-13-2017 11:56 AM

I cannot emphasize how dangerous this car would be in the wet without the Racelogic gods preventing me from doing stupid things :rofl:

sonofthehill 11-13-2017 12:01 PM

Seriously, even my car must be driven like an elderly person in wet conditions. Any gear, super dangerous.

Mobius 11-13-2017 09:54 PM

The racelogic is no longer available, correct?

Savington 11-13-2017 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1451645)
The racelogic is no longer available, correct?

It is NLA, sadly. For a race car it's not terribly useful since it's pretty intrusive while cornering, but for a street car it is pretty magical.

sonofthehill 11-13-2017 10:28 PM

So what do us mere mortals do, ms3?

Savington 11-14-2017 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1451653)
So what do us mere mortals do, ms3?

Not sure. I have never played with the MS3's traction control strategies. The RL actually intercepts the injector pulses, which is the right way to do it IMO (even better than DBW throttle management). I wish the MS3 would do the same - all it would need is the four wheel speed sensor inputs from the ABS system and some code (and maybe some licensing dollars to Racelogic).

18psi 11-14-2017 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1451653)
So what do us mere mortals do, ms3?

You re-calibrate your right foot, or make a "rain" map


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