Notices
Electronics Section about electronics, connectors, and wiring

Connector Witch Hunt

Old Nov 14, 2014 | 10:10 AM
  #301  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

Seriously awesome thread. This should be stickied.

Can someone confirm I'm not going full retard? I'm looking for the PINS for the VVT connector.

I see this:
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...19_36_68_39_41

but it's got like 3 different pins listed underneath the connector. Which one do I want?
Or is the only difference between them the metal they are made from?
I am looking at the right connector right? For the VVT OCV?
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 01:02 PM
  #302  
AbeFM's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,047
Total Cats: 13
From: San Diego, CA
Default

The short answer is get them from Ballenger - they have it all and spelled out nicely.

And/or try the spreadsheet at home. :-) I don't know the difference between the pins. Perhaps the folks at NURT know, if you find out, post it!
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 02:09 PM
  #303  
asmasm's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 792
Total Cats: 143
From: durham NC
Default

Yeah, Ballenger has been really helpful. I know I have seen this posted somewhere but I can't find it here or on their site. Can someone recommend a crimp tool that works well with the sumitomo terminals and is around $100?
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 02:14 PM
  #304  
Leafy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,491
Total Cats: 105
From: NH
Default

Originally Posted by asmasm
Yeah, Ballenger has been really helpful. I know I have seen this posted somewhere but I can't find it here or on their site. Can someone recommend a crimp tool that works well with the sumitomo terminals and is around $100?
The one I have from eastern beaver works well. it takes a long time and a lot of hand effort because you have to crimp each terminal a total of 4-5 times to get a good crimp and it doesnt ratchet. I honestly wish I got a much better crimper to begin with but $500 was hard to stomach back then.
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 03:30 PM
  #305  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,402
Total Cats: 7,523
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi

I see this:
Sumitomo 2.3II(090II) TS Sealed Series 2 Position Female Housing [6189-0264] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech

but it's got like 3 different pins listed underneath the connector. Which one do I want?
Or is the only difference between them the metal they are made from?
That, and the wire size which the pins are rated to attach to. The 7534 pin is rated for 16-22ga, the other two are rated for 20-22. Generally speaking, contacts with a very broad range (16-22) are more difficult to attach to wires on the thinner end of their rating scale, so if you intend to use the pins with 20-22ga wire, choose the 7538 pins.
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 03:38 PM
  #306  
AbeFM's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,047
Total Cats: 13
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Joe, your emergency link doesn't look so good, at least on chrome/win7.

After all the time I spent driving myself buggy for crimpers and pins, "just for now" I did the pigtail thing with used connectors and they've worked wonderfully. Given the effort and the cost of a good tool, I think I would go the pig-tail route. You can solder two wires together and put shrink wrap on pretty well, a number of new sensors have come that way and it's all been dandy.
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 03:43 PM
  #307  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,402
Total Cats: 7,523
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by AbeFM
Joe, your emergency link doesn't look so good, at least on chrome/win7.
?

Attached Thumbnails Connector Witch Hunt-emergency.jpg  
Old Nov 14, 2014 | 03:50 PM
  #308  
AbeFM's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,047
Total Cats: 13
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Huh, works now. Maybe it was just one bad image, though I suspect smugmug.

I hope you're getting government funds to support your daring, but needed, work.
Old Nov 16, 2014 | 12:29 AM
  #309  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

Thanks guys, I'm set
Old Nov 17, 2014 | 09:23 AM
  #310  
vtjballeng's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 342
Total Cats: 24
From: Richmond, VA
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi
Seriously awesome thread. This should be stickied.

Can someone confirm I'm not going full retard? I'm looking for the PINS for the VVT connector.

I see this:
Sumitomo 2.3II(090II) TS Sealed Series 2 Position Female Housing [6189-0264] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech

but it's got like 3 different pins listed underneath the connector. Which one do I want?
Or is the only difference between them the metal they are made from?
I am looking at the right connector right? For the VVT OCV?
Dedicated Miata page is here:
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics

The relevant portion is here:
Variable Valve Timing Connector (VVT) & NA EVAP Cannister

Mazda Miata VVT Connector (CONN-100449)
Mazda Miata VVT Connector Kit (CONN-75734)
Mazda Miata VVT Connector Pigtail (CONN-85734)

Just the terminals are CONN-11856, the seals are CONN-00145. The connector, connector kit and pigtail links all spell out the mating / associated components.
Old Nov 17, 2014 | 09:29 AM
  #311  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

Oh snap, thanks man. Looks like Ballenger is quickly becoming the exclusive go-to place for all our wiring needs. Very convenient.
Old Nov 17, 2014 | 03:28 PM
  #312  
AbeFM's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,047
Total Cats: 13
From: San Diego, CA
Default

Yeah, but he never drives out and installs it for you. :-(

Seriously, it's VERY awesome you're setting up your shop with useful information and having the parts!! It's a shame the shipping overhead is so high, I've have ordered a lot of stuff along the way instead of waiting for the One Big Order if the barrier to entry were a little lower... But that's a business call and digging out individual pins is a big PITA, so I get it.
Old Nov 17, 2014 | 03:36 PM
  #313  
Chiburbian's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,331
Total Cats: 204
From: Loganville, GA
Default

How long till we have a complete wiring hardness repair or replacement kit?
Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:37 PM
  #314  
vtjballeng's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 342
Total Cats: 24
From: Richmond, VA
Default

Originally Posted by 18psi
Oh snap, thanks man. Looks like Ballenger is quickly becoming the exclusive go-to place for all our wiring needs. Very convenient.
No problem! We track a turbo NB and work with a lot of customers. The list still needs some updating and clarification. We still need to go through the original google spreadsheet fully.

The goal is to have a one-stop place for the Miata and some other vehicle applications as it can be so hard for customers to sort through the mess of information on the web.
Old Feb 23, 2015 | 08:01 PM
  #315  
olderguy's Avatar
AFM Crusader
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,716
Total Cats: 364
From: Wayne, NJ
Default

Has anyone run across the 90~93 AFM connector? Not the one that plugs into the AFM, but the one mounted to the AFM body.
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 03:05 AM
  #316  
Zaphod's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,574
Total Cats: 106
From: Schwarzenberg, Germany
Default

Mostly they are "wire to device" connectors, so there isn't a single connector counterpart for that...
Old Mar 25, 2015 | 12:21 PM
  #317  
jpreston's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 947
Total Cats: 182
From: KY
Default

I'm wiring 2001+ coils into my 1991 wiring harness. On the 2001+ wiring harness, there are two connectors that plug directly into the coils, then a short section of wiring that runs along the top of the valve cover. Is there another 6 or 8 pin connector on the back side of the valve cover for the coils, or do the coil wires go directly into the engine harness without another connector?

The wiring I was given with my 2001 coils was snipped at the back of the valve cover and just has 6 or 8 bare wires right now. I was thinking that I needed to add another connector so that I have an ignition coil subharness, but I'm realizing now that it's probably easiest to just splice the bare wires that I have straight into the 91 harness without another connector.
Old Mar 25, 2015 | 12:23 PM
  #318  
jpreston's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 947
Total Cats: 182
From: KY
Default

I emailed Ballenger about the connector I'm looking for and James isn't sure what I'm talking about. That makes me think mazda just ran these wires straight into the engine harness without a connector.
Old Mar 25, 2015 | 12:48 PM
  #319  
EO2K's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,477
Total Cats: 1,924
From: Very NorCal
Default

IIRC the coil wires should run to the back of the head, jump in with the rear temp sensor, curve around the intake side, bundle in with the injector harness and then run the front of the head. At the timing cover the harness then splits out again and the injector/temp harness goes into a 2x4 (8 pin) plug and the coils go into a 2x3 (6 pin) plug. There are also a pair of grounds that go to a single ring terminal that goes to a bolt UNDER the throttle body.

That was all from memory so don't take it as gospel. It should be a good place to start researching from so you can call me a liar Hope some of that helps!
Old Mar 25, 2015 | 01:11 PM
  #320  
jpreston's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 947
Total Cats: 182
From: KY
Default

Thanks. I remember seeing those two connectors on the front of a VVT engine, but I never knew what they were for. So then, since my 91 coil connector is already on the back of the head and my 01 coil harness is already cut to the right length to wire straight in, I think I'm going to omit the 01+ connector and just splice everything together. Then I'll just have to unplug the coils to pull the motor.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:44 AM.