Gordon freaks out over (alternative) facts about valve springs

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May 17, 2017 | 01:56 PM

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Gordon freaks out over (alternative) facts about valve springs

Christ is this why I am puffing a bit of smoke rolling from a stop? I'm sitting here thinking my rings are toast yet leak down looks pretty solid.

I have another head being built with Supertech not being the wiser to Supertech Springs being potentially flakey and seals being leaky.

Edit: added citation per request to elaborate on post. Also added potentially to curb echo chamber conjecture found all over the forum.

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Regarding the silent minority where folks may not be voicing observations because it's against the grain. Maybe we need to probe Leafy for his sources.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1314390

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Originally Posted by Leafy

There's a non vocal (for fear of backlash from forum sponsors and mods) group of people whom have a major disdain for the supertech valve springs because they take a set and after some use seem to have significantly reduced seat pressure. I never noticed that problem with them in my motor, though I'm not sure I ran them long enough and I also havent measure the seat pressure currently.

This guy talking about retainers.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1393808

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Originally Posted by NiklasFalk

The failure I've seen was due to wear, all the way through (only inner spring holding the valve), possibly due to not tight enough so the spring rotates against the retainer wearing the soft Ti.

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May 17, 2017 | 02:07 PM

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Supertech Springs being flakey

WAT. Please explain.

May 17, 2017 | 02:10 PM

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Supertech Springs being flakey

May 17, 2017 | 02:58 PM

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WAT. Please explain.

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On it as soon as my flights are done.

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Regarding the silent minority where folks may not be voicing observations because it's against the grain. Maybe we need to probe Leafy for his sources.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1314390

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Originally Posted by Leafy

This guy talking about retainers.
https://www.miataturbo.net/engine-performance-56/supertech-vs-sealed-power-vs855-valve-springs-88038/#post1393808

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Originally Posted by NiklasFalk

The failure I've seen was due to wear, all the way through (only inner spring holding the valve), possibly due to not tight enough so the spring rotates against the retainer wearing the soft Ti.

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May 17, 2017 | 03:00 PM

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Valves, valve seals, and now springs?

BRB buying a Camry.

May 17, 2017 | 03:34 PM

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Valves, valve seals, and now springs?

BRB buying a Camry.

BRB registering TurboCamry.net

May 17, 2017 | 03:44 PM

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BRB registering TurboCamry.net

There's a lot more turbo Camrys than you'd think.

They have an advantage of having a motor that isn't hot trash, by and large.

May 17, 2017 | 04:19 PM

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Leafy's not got a great record in my book as a source of reliable data.

May 17, 2017 | 04:23 PM

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Leafy's not got a great record in my book as a source of reliable data.

Understood. It's a bit hard to deduce when no one challenges certain statements. Much like if no one cites sources (including myself) even if it's accepted as common knowledge. From the outside statements quoted above might be hard to shake the shadow of doubt.

Sorry to kick up dust these past days.

May 17, 2017 | 04:26 PM

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There's a lot more turbo Camrys than you'd think.

They have an advantage of having a motor that isn't hot trash, by and large.

Especially if it you put it in an SW20.

--Ian

May 17, 2017 | 04:37 PM

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Lol. That thread title tho

May 17, 2017 | 05:10 PM

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Especially if it you put it in an SW20.

--Ian

I need to find a hardtop sw20 before they become unobtainable

May 17, 2017 | 05:56 PM

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in for another Leafy thread

May 17, 2017 | 07:06 PM

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If its a legitimate issue it would be nice to get more data points, kinda like what happened with the supertech valve seal thread. Of course with my name on it, people will probably just think I broke something else and move on to another thread.