Honda intake manifold
01-29-2010, 11:21 AM
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1.6L intake manis are probably cheaper than flanges anyway lol*
*note that the "lol" is being used in place of a period here, to end the expression with a note of humor.
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01-29-2010, 02:02 PM
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Got my mani today, still waiting on my throttle body.
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01-29-2010, 02:39 PM
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No, still 100% Honda.
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01-29-2010, 04:42 PM
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- that explains why the Victor X on previous page has no provisions for fuel...sorry Im 1.6L 
I got a price for the intake flanges,after setup fees & hourly,works out to $75 each,there would be a minumum of 5 to begin.They would be out of 3/8" AL.
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01-29-2010, 06:20 PM
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...so 1.8 has injectors and mounting on head,- that explains why the Victor X on previous page has no provisions for fuel...sorry Im 1.6L
I got a price for the intake flanges,after setup fees & hourly,works out to $75 each,there would be a minumum of 5 to begin.They would be out of 3/8" AL.
- that explains why the Victor X on previous page has no provisions for fuel...sorry Im 1.6L I got a price for the intake flanges,after setup fees & hourly,works out to $75 each,there would be a minumum of 5 to begin.They would be out of 3/8" AL.
There's nothing wrong using the flange off the stock manifold. Many fabricators do it.
I could also get flanges cut on a cnc mill out of 1/2" 6061 for $65-75 depending on the number of pieces, no minimum (plus shipping to you). I have gasket-matched patterns for the 1.8 BP05 and BP4W heads.
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01-29-2010, 06:26 PM
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Just looked at Braineack's pics and I'd estimate you would need to start out with 1" thick material to be able to have enough meat for machining the injector bosses. You would still need to weld on the fuel rail attachment 'towers'. Rough price estimate is that 1.6 flanges would cost about twice as much, so ~$150. In this case, I'd just use a cut-off stock flange...
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01-29-2010, 06:46 PM
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You're probably right. Here's how SLS does it for Honda flanges:
Maybe 3/4"?
Has anyone seen this one?
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.6l intake manifold B6 MX5 : eBay Motors (item 350303846766 end time Feb-10-10 05:02:32 PST)
Sure doesn't look like cast to me but wha-eva. Plenum too large, runners too short?
Maybe 3/4"?
Has anyone seen this one?
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.6l intake manifold B6 MX5 : eBay Motors (item 350303846766 end time Feb-10-10 05:02:32 PST)
Sure doesn't look like cast to me but wha-eva. Plenum too large, runners too short?
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01-30-2010, 10:39 AM
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Hmm, us "great minds" think alike! I've been wondering if cutting off the Miata flange with about 2" runner stubs is a possibility. Open up the runner stubs to match the ID of the Honda manifold runners and then cut the Honda flange and about 2" of each runner off. Use 4 silicon hose couplers & 8 SS T-bolt clamps to physically join the Miata flange to the Honda manifold along with modifying/adapting the stock Miata intake manifold support to the Honda manifold so that the silicon hose connector tubes aren't holding any weight. Ghetto, but very functional. FWIW, Lycoming aircraft engines have logged millions of hours with these funking rubber/silicon connector hose intakes.
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01-30-2010, 01:35 PM
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Too much for a chinese product maybe, but as far as custom IMs go, $500 is not expensive. Begi's sells for more and there's a lot less work involved in making it vs the one in the link. CNC'd flange, formed plenum/runners, velocity stacks, all that costs money.
The cut&paste method will cost about that once its all said and done (including price of new manifold) assuming you don't own a machine shop.
The cut&paste method will cost about that once its all said and done (including price of new manifold) assuming you don't own a machine shop.
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01-30-2010, 01:51 PM
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I've been working on pricing out Intake Manifolds, Flanges and all Welding/Labor and I might be able to bring the product to market.
BRAND NEW Intake Manifold welded to Billet Flange and Port Matched to flange.
Pricing would be based on minimum group buy of 10 Intake Manifolds. Keep in mind the 97-97 and 99-05 flanges are different.
Who would be interested at the price of $450-500 based on a minimum Group Buy of 10.
BRAND NEW Intake Manifold welded to Billet Flange and Port Matched to flange.
Pricing would be based on minimum group buy of 10 Intake Manifolds. Keep in mind the 97-97 and 99-05 flanges are different.
Who would be interested at the price of $450-500 based on a minimum Group Buy of 10.
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02-01-2010, 12:24 PM
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Honestly, I don't think you well sell many if any at that price. Especially if this Honda mani works good enough. I'll have this mani on my car for under $300. I think if you or anyone can bring a decent manifold to the market in the $300-350 area you would sell a bunch.
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02-01-2010, 01:16 PM
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Honestly, I don't think you well sell many if any at that price. Especially if this Honda mani works good enough. I'll have this mani on my car for under $300. I think if you or anyone can bring a decent manifold to the market in the $300-350 area you would sell a bunch.
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02-01-2010, 02:32 PM
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Honestly, I don't think you well sell many if any at that price. Especially if this Honda mani works good enough. I'll have this mani on my car for under $300. I think if you or anyone can bring a decent manifold to the market in the $300-350 area you would sell a bunch.
Most of the money in our estimate is welding and fabrication costs.
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02-01-2010, 02:38 PM
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Otherwise your price is just too high...
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02-01-2010, 03:43 PM
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This is making me feel old, but I remember when a custom intake manifold would go for a grand or more. No one balked over a custom turbo kit costing 3 to 4 thousand because they knew it was a good deal (And this was in 1990's dollars). I don't know if the cheap cost of Honda stuff is the cause, but 500 is cheap for just about anything custom under the hood of a car that actually make power. That doesn't mean everyone can afford it, but its custom work, not something mass produced. Consider water reroutes are going for 300.00. COPS kits for 300 plus.
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