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Scrambles 12-12-2013 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by halfdemonpyro (Post 1082058)
Any ballpark insider info on future pricing? Or an idea of when this might be available?

He has the swap complete, I'll repost from this thread: K24 Miata swap... finally a reality - Page 13 - K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum


Originally Posted by magicDC2
"Car is DONE. I finished putting the dash and interior bits in last night.

Everything works. OEM cluster is fully operational. From the outside, it looks exactly the same as before, you'd never guess its K powered until the hood is popped.

Time to beat on it for a couple thousand miles and a final product will be out soon after."

You can ballpark a price based on his list:



Originally Posted by magicDC2
Originally Posted by magicDC2 View Post
I agree, I don't think many stance guys are going to do this swap.

Interested to see what you come up with. There is no right or wrong way to do it, and once the car is in front of you, you'll see how tight some of the clearances are, and how little room there is in certain areas. My solution works great and is cost effective, which was my main goal with the design.



subframe
mounts
adapter plate
flywheel
wiring harness
header
oil pan
oil pump and pickup

you add:
engine
kpro
factory wiring harness
S2000 manifold/TB and my adapter plate
...or ITBs


Efini~FC3S 12-12-2013 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1082059)
I saw an S2000 last night with a K20 swap.

I watted.

K20 or K24?

K24 seems more common (well, not really common at all) in an S2000. I don't think I've seen a k20 swap. People generally want the extra torqure from the +400cc if they're going through the trouble of swapping.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 12-12-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1082059)
I saw an S2000 last night with a K20 swap.

I watted.

Just like I said. A lot of Honda people do things because they are different, not because they make sense. This is why you cant rely on their data, or lack thereof.

concealer404 12-12-2013 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1082084)
K20 or K24?

K24 seems more common (well, not really common at all) in an S2000. I don't think I've seen a k20 swap. People generally want the extra torqure from the +400cc if they're going through the trouble of swapping.


It was definitely a K20.


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1082096)
Just like I said. A lot of Honda people do things because they are different, not because they make sense. This is why you cant rely on their data, or lack thereof.

I mean... if i had an S2000 shell, i'd probably do it. Because "cheaper" or something, maybe?

Fireindc 12-12-2013 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1082096)
Just like I said. A lot of Honda people do things because they are different, not because they make sense. This is why you cant rely on their data, or lack thereof.

While this is true, in this particular case it definitely makes sense to me. More displacement, more torque that the s2k desperately needs, more aftermarket support, 300whp n/a capable. It would be much more expensive to make 300whp n/a on a f20 engine. Cheaper engines for replacement after track abuse.

I agree the f22 is the far superior engine in OEM form, but keep in mind there are far, FAR, more k series engines out there and much more support to make big power on em.

halfdemonpyro 12-12-2013 04:06 PM

Looks like I'll start saving my pennies now then.

JasonC SBB 12-13-2013 10:34 AM

tl;dr

How did they address the steering geometry issue?

Leafy 12-13-2013 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1082307)
tl;dr

How did they address the steering geometry issue?

Custom oil pan and non-balance shaft oil pump.

KMiata 12-15-2013 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 1082096)
Just like I said. A lot of Honda people do things because they are different, not because they make sense. This is why you cant rely on their data, or lack thereof.

gotta give us Honda guys a little more credit. We aren't all a bunch of idiots. Lots of us road race and actually know what we are talking about.

Even a K20 has a better powerband than an F20, not to mention 1/3 of the replacement cost. K24 would be better suited to an S2000 in my opinion but whatever, not my car.

On another note, I drove the Miata for about 100 miles today. Its awesome even in its underpowered form, mid range power is just fantastic. Looking forward to more testing, and then a proper header, exhaust, and cams to make another 35-40whp, revving to about 8000 rpm.

edit: another bonus to this swap. It was pretty straightforward to make the OEM Miata gauge cluster work. Every gauge and indicator light works just like before, which is really nice for a street vehicle.

viperormiata 12-16-2013 12:23 AM

Sounds killer. Can't wait to see some more pics/vids.

VW_Morrell 12-17-2013 02:37 PM

I WANT! Sign me up!

No Joking, Love more info. When this "KIT" is ready im in!

KMiata 12-18-2013 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by VW_Morrell (Post 1083720)
I WANT! Sign me up!

No Joking, Love more info. When this "KIT" is ready im in!

got your PM and replied.

Testing is going great on this car, I've been driving it all over the place the last few days with no issues.

halfdemonpyro 12-18-2013 04:33 PM

Now my only question is, being a car to car, I'm wondering if there would be a way to run the stock k ecu. By keeping the oem ecu, running an oem honda intake manifold and throttle body *even though it is off another engine, its still honda* and oem or allready CARB apporved intake, it might be possible to get this swap BAR'd in, in california. Ive talked to state ref guys before, and despite the rumors and fear of failing, BARing in some swaps isint difficult if you keep some things in mind while planning and installing.

18psi 12-18-2013 04:42 PM

how are you going to run an OEM exhaust manifold?

yeah no

Leafy 12-18-2013 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1084152)
how are you going to run an OEM exhaust manifold?

yeah no

Side exit exhaust.

18psi 12-18-2013 04:49 PM

Oh yeah I forgot about the "delete the front right wheel and replace with oem k20 header" option :idea:

Leafy 12-18-2013 04:53 PM

Its just your tire heater.

KMiata 12-30-2013 08:20 PM

about 600 miles on the setup now, zero issues, and just a blast to drive. This motor is perfect in this chassis. Few more pics up on the original k20a.org thread if you're interested.

ctdrftna 12-30-2013 08:39 PM

damn that looks super clean !!!

turbofan 12-30-2013 08:57 PM

Really looks great. Would love to see some videos of this in action.


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