Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: KPower

MSM engine suddenly broke!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-12-2011, 09:18 AM
  #21  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
Stehu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 17
Total Cats: 0
Default

I got a vvt engine and a complete new turbo setup that's going in.

Guess I will be selling my cams then Does the msm valve cover fit any other miata head?
Stehu is offline  
Old 06-13-2011, 10:35 AM
  #22  
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
sixshooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,647
Total Cats: 3,009
Default

Originally Posted by curly
An aquantience had nitrous oxide dumped in the tank and raced until it exploded when his accord was stolen.
Orly? Just dumped it in, huh?
sixshooter is offline  
Old 11-06-2011, 05:00 PM
  #23  
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
tottestad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 318
Total Cats: -1
Default

Anyone Know the stock timing table of an msm turbo engine?
tottestad is offline  
Old 11-10-2011, 01:11 PM
  #24  
Newb
Thread Starter
 
Stehu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 17
Total Cats: 0
Default

Originally Posted by tottestad
Anyone Know the stock timing table of an msm turbo engine?
Yeah! PM me with your email adress and I can send the Hydra map for it
Stehu is offline  
Old 11-10-2011, 02:17 PM
  #25  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,490
Total Cats: 4,079
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
I don't see any detonation on those pistons.
Are we looking at the same pistons?
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-10-2011, 04:02 PM
  #26  
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
Are we looking at the same pistons?
I see nothing. It usually shows up around the quench pads, and they look fuzzy with carbon but fine to me.
hustler is offline  
Old 11-11-2011, 03:11 PM
  #27  
Elite Member
 
jacob300zx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,199
Total Cats: 145
Default

You should have got a VVT motor and Borg turbo form the get go. There is nothing special about the MSM motor. Its a 95 block, 99 head, with a tiny turbo that will put down like 200whp at 15psi, and an artifically low redline. The value of an MSM is in the fact that you get the whole car (bilsteins, t2r, axels, sport brakes, sways, springs, racing harts) for the cost of a regular NB of same year mileage.

Your best bet is to check the head to make sure its good, slap on another block and sell the whole setup to someone else to recoup the most money.
jacob300zx is offline  
Old 11-11-2011, 03:26 PM
  #28  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,490
Total Cats: 4,079
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
I see nothing. It usually shows up around the quench pads, and they look fuzzy with carbon but fine to me.

this one looks really suspect to me.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...0&d=1307562838
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-15-2011, 12:59 PM
  #29  
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (1)
 
johnjason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 56
Total Cats: 0
Default

I HAVE 160,000 MILES ON MY RACE CAR MSM 2004, 1/8 MILE, 1/4 MILE, AUTO CROSS & DAILY RED LINES..... AEM CAI, NO CAT, GLASSPACKED MUFFLER & EVERYTHING ELSE STOCK. NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT 5 SETS CRACKED/BENT RIMS, 3 CRACKED WINDSHIELDS (stopped engine shaking with 3 engine shocks)... and a Mishimoto Radiator for heat management.... I also have 80,000 on a 2nd MSM 100% stock... 2 sets of cracked/bent rims... based on what you said, I will not go over 10lbs boost.... on both cars.... gone through 20+ sets of tires and 1 clutch change & 2 sets of brake pads... Oil changes every 2-3k... but no knocks....
johnjason is offline  
Old 11-15-2011, 01:21 PM
  #30  
Elite Member
 
jacob300zx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 3,199
Total Cats: 145
Default

Do yourself a favor and get rid of those racing harts for a nice 15" setup.
jacob300zx is offline  
Old 11-15-2011, 01:31 PM
  #31  
I'm Miserable!
iTrader: (1)
 
johnjason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 56
Total Cats: 0
Default

I DID, RH ARE SO WEAK, so I went to other 17" and they bent too. Went to 15, 16 and they did not mix well with "pot holes" or So. California Roads... Now on Axis 10 spoke rims with 1600lb rating per rim... no problems now... have 3 sets for 2 cars, got rid of all other rims... I use 225-35-18 on back and 215-35-18 front, Staggered, really BMW Z4 looks....
johnjason is offline  
Old 11-15-2011, 01:36 PM
  #32  
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Faeflora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 8,682
Total Cats: 130
Default

Originally Posted by hustler
I see nothing. It usually shows up around the quench pads, and they look fuzzy with carbon but fine to me.
I had to look up what quench pad is. On these pistons, is it the outer face adjoining the valve relief cuts? I guess you mean the melted area on the piston below (supertech).




Originally Posted by Braineack
this one looks really suspect to me.
Are you referring to the spotting in the carbon?
Attached Thumbnails MSM engine suddenly broke!-cgxqs.jpg  
Faeflora is offline  
Old 11-15-2011, 02:37 PM
  #33  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,490
Total Cats: 4,079
Default

yeah, spefically around the edges.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-19-2011, 11:45 AM
  #34  
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Default

Yep, upon further review the referee says its det.
hustler is offline  
Old 11-19-2011, 05:52 PM
  #35  
Elite Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Doppelgänger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 6,850
Total Cats: 71
Default

Originally Posted by johnjason
I HAVE 160,000 MILES ON MY RACE CAR MSM 2004, 1/8 MILE, 1/4 MILE, AUTO CROSS & DAILY RED LINES..... AEM CAI, NO CAT, GLASSPACKED MUFFLER & EVERYTHING ELSE STOCK. NO PROBLEMS EXCEPT 5 SETS CRACKED/BENT RIMS, 3 CRACKED WINDSHIELDS (stopped engine shaking with 3 engine shocks)... and a Mishimoto Radiator for heat management.... I also have 80,000 on a 2nd MSM 100% stock... 2 sets of cracked/bent rims... based on what you said, I will not go over 10lbs boost.... on both cars.... gone through 20+ sets of tires and 1 clutch change & 2 sets of brake pads... Oil changes every 2-3k... but no knocks....
Get off our forum you stupid retarded ****...and stop wearing those 1970s flower print m.netter shirts. God I should have fucked with your car when I had the chance...but I felt sorry for you after listening to you babble on and on to some poor schmuck at C&C.
Doppelgänger is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
04-12-2021 04:21 PM
nbdooey
Miata parts for sale/trade
9
08-30-2017 09:50 PM
90 Turbo
MEGAsquirt
19
10-19-2015 03:23 PM
tazswing
Race Prep
20
10-03-2015 11:04 AM
viriiguy
General Miata Chat
5
09-28-2015 07:39 PM



Quick Reply: MSM engine suddenly broke!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:51 AM.