Notices
Fabulous Fabrication Post all your custom fabrication projects here; impress all your friends.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Buying a welder

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 26, 2018 | 09:01 AM
  #461  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by Monk
I disagree.
MIG is easy, but I believe everyone should learn how to stick weld first.
Watch all of these to start:
My Lincoln can do stick, but never once have I thought about trying it out. I started with TIG and I think I ended up alright. MIG came later when I got tired of trying to tack weld upside down with my TIG torch.
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 06:12 PM
  #462  
nigelt's Avatar
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,462
Total Cats: 389
From: Bainbridge Island, WA
Default

I learned to mig weld in high school and just picked up tig welding last week. It's not too hard with some videos and practice.
__________________
FlowForce Injectors - now available for ND2 // LS and R8 Coil kits // goflowforce.com
Old Apr 5, 2018 | 08:25 AM
  #463  
Roda's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,647
Total Cats: 446
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Default

A while back I posted that I picked up a 'real' foot pedal for the AHP TIG:
https://www.amazon.com/SSC-Controls-C910-0725-Welding-AlphaTIG/dp/B019CYIZ74/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522930679&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=ahp+tig+foot+pedal https://www.amazon.com/SSC-Controls-C910-0725-Welding-AlphaTIG/dp/B019CYIZ74/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522930679&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=ahp+tig+foot+pedal

I just finished my first big aluminum project, and I can report that the new pedal made a huge difference in comfort and control. Definitely worth the investment!



Speaking of investment, I still can't believe this was over $200 of aluminum:


I used it to build framing for a workbench for my trailer, and it will double as a 'docking station' for a toolbox/cart. Still need to add a worktop, and will probably add facing with cabinet doors to match the overhead cabinets...

Old Apr 23, 2018 | 08:05 PM
  #464  
Savington's Avatar
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,106
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Being new to the TIG game, I didn't have a dedicated bench grinder and sharpening tungsten on a flap wheel only gets you so far. I have a small shop and I didn't want to eat up bench space with a bench grinder just for this. I really wanted something small and battery-powered so I can throw it in a drawer with all my other torch parts and have one less thing to plug in when it's time to do some welding. I hunted around a little more and I think I found an awesome option. A little shop called Scottsman has a rotary tool adapter which combines a diamond wheel with a fully sealed enclosure to capture the dust and grit that comes off the tungsten while sharpening.

This:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162303255536

installed on this:
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2460-21-12-Volt-Rotary-Tool/dp/B004WBBM82/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1524527950&sr=1-3&keywords=milwaukee+2460 https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2460-21-12-Volt-Rotary-Tool/dp/B004WBBM82/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1524527950&sr=1-3&keywords=milwaukee+2460
(Bare tool is 2460-20 if you already bought into that system like I did, $80 on Amazon)

I already owned an M12 ratchet with two batteries and a charger and paid $47 shipped for the attachment (it's up to $57 now) and $80 for the tool. Just got it set up and fired up and it cut a perfect, smooth point into a ffesh 3/32" 2% lanth in about 20 seconds. Perfect.

Last edited by Savington; Apr 23, 2018 at 08:26 PM.
Old Apr 23, 2018 | 08:08 PM
  #465  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Does it look like it would work with a regular (non milwuakee Dremel?)
Old Apr 23, 2018 | 08:26 PM
  #466  
Savington's Avatar
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,106
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Their FB page says it should fit anything with 3/4" coarse threads on the body of the tool. Call them and see, they probably know. I will say that initial setup is a little finnicky, you have to set the height of the adapter in the collet before threading the adapter in place and installing the diamond wheel, so it would be a PITA to have to share this with a rotary tool you use for other stuff. You could probably pick up a HF rotary tool with the right threads for a lot less than the Milwaukee tool, but I already had the batteries and I really like cordless tools.
Old Apr 23, 2018 | 08:31 PM
  #467  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Got it. Thanks.
Old Apr 23, 2018 | 09:37 PM
  #468  
afm's Avatar
afm
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 985
Total Cats: 510
From: Berkeley, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Savington
... Winning ...
I have a similar setup with the M12 rotary tool and this 3D printed tungsten sharpener attachment from Thingiverse. The attachment you're using looks waaaay nicer so since I just bought one.

I already owned the M12 dremel, and I was happy to put it to that use since I was actually really disappointed with how wimpy it was for burrs and cutoff discs.
Old Apr 28, 2018 | 10:03 AM
  #469  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by Savington
Being new to the TIG game, I didn't have a dedicated bench grinder and sharpening tungsten on a flap wheel only gets you so far. I have a small shop and I didn't want to eat up bench space with a bench grinder just for this. I really wanted something small and battery-powered so I can throw it in a drawer with all my other torch parts and have one less thing to plug in when it's time to do some welding. I hunted around a little more and I think I found an awesome option. A little shop called Scottsman has a rotary tool adapter which combines a diamond wheel with a fully sealed enclosure to capture the dust and grit that comes off the tungsten while sharpening.

This:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162303255536

installed on this:
https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-246...milwaukee+2460
(Bare tool is 2460-20 if you already bought into that system like I did, $80 on Amazon)

I already owned an M12 ratchet with two batteries and a charger and paid $47 shipped for the attachment (it's up to $57 now) and $80 for the tool. Just got it set up and fired up and it cut a perfect, smooth point into a ffesh 3/32" 2% lanth in about 20 seconds. Perfect.

I bought this tool about 6 months after I started TIG welding. It was worth every penny to me with the amount of time and frustration saved. Your way of doing it looks a good bit cheaper which is awesome.
Old Apr 29, 2018 | 01:52 PM
  #470  
nigelt's Avatar
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,462
Total Cats: 389
From: Bainbridge Island, WA
Default

I got a super cheap bench grinder from harbor freight that I use for lots of stuff, and it grinds my tungsten as well as I could want.
__________________
FlowForce Injectors - now available for ND2 // LS and R8 Coil kits // goflowforce.com
Old Apr 29, 2018 | 05:01 PM
  #471  
shuiend's Avatar
mkturbo.com
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 15,235
Total Cats: 1,700
From: Charleston SC
Default

Originally Posted by nigelt
I got a super cheap bench grinder from harbor freight that I use for lots of stuff, and it grinds my tungsten as well as I could want.
you shouldn't use the grinding wheel for anything but the tungsten. Also you will eventually wear groves into the grinding wheel, that's what caused me to buy the fancy tool.
Old Apr 30, 2018 | 02:27 AM
  #472  
Savington's Avatar
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,106
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Originally Posted by shuiend
you shouldn't use the grinding wheel for anything but the tungsten. Also you will eventually wear groves into the grinding wheel, that's what caused me to buy the fancy tool.
Yep. Steel and aluminum bits embed themselves in the wheel, then those bits end up imbedded in your tungsten, then those bits end up embedded in your welds.
Old Apr 30, 2018 | 05:36 AM
  #473  
Erat's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,718
Total Cats: 830
From: Detroit (the part with no rules or laws)
Default

Don't over think it. Aluminum oxide is a major component in abrasive wheels. Not to mention the bonding agents and whatever else.

​​​
Reply
Leave a poscat -1 Leave a negcat
Old Apr 30, 2018 | 07:40 PM
  #474  
jmann's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 488
Total Cats: 17
From: Grants Pass, OR.
Default

I've tigged for 8 years and never had an issue with sharpening on the grinder wheel I use for everything. I do know they say not too, but like above there is a lot of alum. oxide in abrasives. Heck the tip of the tungsten gets so hot that I would think it would fry any specs of something.
Old May 2, 2018 | 08:05 AM
  #475  
shlammed's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,910
Total Cats: 51
From: Kingston, Ontario
Default

I use a fine grit grinding wheel too.
I use a dedicated bench grinder, I don't have anything else i would want to grind on it to be honest... i use my sander for almost everything.
Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:58 PM
  #476  
stratosteve's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,067
Total Cats: 204
From: Marylandistan
Default

Just sold my big *** lincoln and looking at the alpha tig. Any 2018 owners chime in with thoughts on the upgrades for this year?
Old Jun 30, 2018 | 03:45 AM
  #477  
LukeG's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,119
Total Cats: 166
From: Austin, TX
Default

Originally Posted by stratosteve
Just sold my big *** lincoln and looking at the alpha tig. Any 2018 owners chime in with thoughts on the upgrades for this year?
Just broke down and ordered one tonight so I'll let you know when I get it. From what the product listing on amazon says they now have a flex head torch and the frequency can be adjusted to 200hz. I thought they got those upgrades last year though.
Old Jun 30, 2018 | 10:10 AM
  #478  
Roda's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,647
Total Cats: 446
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Default

My 2015 version of the Alpha Tig came with a flex head torch.

IMHO, the 1st accessory to buy is a real rocker pedal. Made a huge difference in control.
Foot pedal $159 Amazon Foot pedal $159 Amazon

I bought the one above, there's now a cheaper one showing on Amazon. Reviews say it's just as good:
$100 pedal $100 pedal
Old Jun 30, 2018 | 10:59 AM
  #479  
HarryB's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,083
Total Cats: 155
Default

+1000 on the rocker pedal, it is almost necessary especially when you are trying to weld non-constant cross-sections.
Old Jul 17, 2018 | 10:02 AM
  #480  
stratosteve's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,067
Total Cats: 204
From: Marylandistan
Default


Harbor freight welding sale. Very tempted with this cabinet. I have the medium sized cabinet now. Would be nice to have everything on one cart



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:39 AM.