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Erat 10-25-2018 09:19 PM

Affirmative.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6f0cfd6c60.png

olderguy 10-25-2018 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1508325)
Try un-installing the AOL toolbar, the Yahoo toolbar, the Ask Jeeves toolbar, and the twenty-seven other toolbars that you accidentally installed by clicking on the "You've won a free iPad" link.

:giggle:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f3cc82139d.png
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5a9f316db5.png
Trying with Chrome

Joe Perez 10-25-2018 10:30 PM

Both images look fine to me.

olderguy 10-25-2018 11:28 PM

That was with Chrome. Can't seem to do anything with Edge.

Joe Perez 10-26-2018 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1508357)
Can't seem to do anything with Edge.

I would accept that as a universally true statement.

Well, that's not 100% true. Edge is useful as a tool for downloading Chrome.

There's no readily apparent, logical explanation for why Microsoft has never been able to produce a good browser, given that they have actually done rather well in both operating systems and integrated office productivity suites. Different development group, I assume. But ever since Explorer came out to compete with Mosaic and Navigator, they have always just kind of sucked at browsers.

olderguy 10-26-2018 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1508368)
I would accept that as a universally true statement.

Well, that's not 100% true. Edge is useful as a tool for downloading Chrome.

There's no readily apparent, logical explanation for why Microsoft has never been able to produce a good browser, given that they have actually done rather well in both operating systems and integrated office productivity suites. Different development group, I assume. But ever since Explorer came out to compete with Mosaic and Navigator, they have always just kind of sucked at browsers.

I would like to use Firefox, and actually go back to XP, but this newer computer with W10 opens Edge to show *.pdf files and to print and not yet knowing what I will screw up, I have been hesitant. The new site software is horrible no matter how I open it.

sixshooter 10-26-2018 07:05 AM

Try Netscape Navigator. That's what I use.

Joe Perez 10-26-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1508371)
Try Netscape Navigator. That's what I use.

You say this jokingly.

I actually have a virtual machine running Windows 98, Netscape Navigator, and some distressingly old build of Java which took quite a while to track down, which I keep on my desktop and laptop machines, because this is the only way I can communicate with a couple of fairly old machines at work which are critical to our operation.

sixshooter 10-26-2018 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1508374)
You say this jokingly.

I actually have a virtual machine running Windows 98, Netscape Navigator, and some distressingly old build of Java which took quite a while to track down, which I keep on my desktop and laptop machines, because this is the only way I can communicate with a couple of fairly old machines at work which are critical to our operation.

I shuddered.

Joe Perez 10-26-2018 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1508375)
I shuddered.

Turns out that when the applet says "... requires Java X.Y.Z or later," the "or later" part does NOT extend indefinitely into the future. If that were written by a time-traveler, it would include the last X.Y.Z build that works, after which Sun / Oracle took away whatever specific feature the applet relies upon in order to function properly.

I assume that we broadcasters are not unique in having 20+ year old machines still in service (with many years still ahead of them, in terms of hardware reliability) that require utterly archaic PCs in order to configure and monitor.

I shit you not: it was just earlier this year that I finally managed to de-commission our last genuine MS-DOS machine.

I mean, I have no hatred for DOS. It did the job well, in its time, and I was proficient with it. The problem was more that the machine it connected to required an interface which was in the form of an ISA card. Have you tried to buy a motherboard with an ISA slot recently?

y8s 10-26-2018 09:14 AM

Here is a direct download to the latest release of the best browser ever: It will never allow you to accidentally install toolbars.

ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mosaic/Windows/v3.0/mos30.exe

Good luck and make sure to add some extra animated gifs to your angelfire site for me. If you can't figure out what I mean, just webcrawler it.

sixshooter 10-26-2018 10:12 AM

My brother used to be in the business of sourcing archaic computer parts to sell to the federal government/military. Some of the things they were trying to keep running were in line with what you are dealing with.

skylinecalvin 10-26-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1508378)
Turns out that when the applet says "... requires Java X.Y.Z or later," the "or later" part does NOT extend indefinitely into the future. If that were written by a time-traveler, it would include the last X.Y.Z build that works, after which Sun / Oracle took away whatever specific feature the applet relies upon in order to function properly.

I assume that we broadcasters are not unique in having 20+ year old machines still in service (with many years still ahead of them, in terms of hardware reliability) that require utterly archaic PCs in order to configure and monitor.

I shit you not: it was just earlier this year that I finally managed to de-commission our last genuine MS-DOS machine.

I mean, I have no hatred for DOS. It did the job well, in its time, and I was proficient with it. The problem was more that the machine it connected to required an interface which was in the form of an ISA card. Have you tried to buy a motherboard with an ISA slot recently?

Not to show off my age (or lack of) but we have some XP machines still in production...I can hardly remember using XP in my lifetime

Erat 10-26-2018 10:46 AM

I'm on an XP machine right now. It was this or a thin client that was running some Windows server. I could bring that stupid thing to it's knees just opening a web browser.

I guess 60k a day and 30% of that being straight profit isn't enough to upgrade the computers around here. It's a security risk at this point .

codrus 10-26-2018 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1508378)
I assume that we broadcasters are not unique in having 20+ year old machines still in service (with many years still ahead of them, in terms of hardware reliability) that require utterly archaic PCs in order to configure and monitor.

When I worked for Cisco and a security hole was discovered, there would be a fire drill to patch every single released image for every single affected product they'd ever made. This applied whether or not the product was still considered to be "supported", which caused a bit of a problem a couple of times. It turns out the code for some of those older products required old versions of build tools, which only ran on old versions of SunOS, which only ran on hardware that we no longer had any of. VMs weren't really a thing at that point, so there was a bit of a scramble to go out and find some old Sun hardware...

--Ian

Joe Perez 10-26-2018 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1508414)
When I worked for Cisco and a security hole was discovered, there would be a fire drill to patch every single released image for every single affected product they'd ever made. This applied whether or not the product was still considered to be "supported", which caused a bit of a problem a couple of times. It turns out the code for some of those older products required old versions of build tools, which only ran on old versions of SunOS, which only ran on hardware that we no longer had any of. VMs weren't really a thing at that point, so there was a bit of a scramble to go out and find some old Sun hardware...

We had a similar problem about a year ago.

It was a really subtle and obscure bug in the code which runs a BTS Jupiter router control system (router as in video, not as in Ethernet) which is about 25 years old. (It uses coax 10base2 ethernet, to give you an idea.)

Over the years, BTS was purchased by Philips, and then re-sold to Grass Valley, which was subsequently purchased by Belden.

Now, Belden is really amazing about customer support. If you find a legitimate bug in any product, they will fix it, no matter how old. The problem in this case was that, somewhere along one of the many moves, the engineers lost the whole development environment. As in, they physically misplaced the machine which had the compiler and IDE on it. Everyone was sure that the machine still existed in some warehouse somewhere, but nobody could find it.

concealer404 10-26-2018 11:37 AM

Daily reminder that fuzzy pictures are awful and nobody wants them.

sixshooter 10-26-2018 03:07 PM

https://blogcdn.123rf.com/wp-content...ortraits6a.jpg

Scaxx 10-26-2018 03:28 PM

When I open build threads it looks like Japanese porn censors got a hold of MT.net

Savington 10-26-2018 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by skylinecalvin (Post 1508400)
I can hardly remember using XP in my lifetime

I feel incredibly old.

bahurd 10-26-2018 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1508477)
I feel incredibly old.

I had one of these. Still feeling old?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3aa12c7049.jpg

sixshooter 10-26-2018 05:51 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I've still got a full set of manuals and other accoutrements for this. I almost threw them out a couple of months ago. Not sure why I kept them.

boileralum 10-26-2018 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1508511)
I've still got a full set of manuals and other accoutrements for this. I almost threw them out a couple of months ago. Not sure why I kept them.

What flavor cooter mints?

olderguy 10-27-2018 06:52 AM

Has anyone checked to see if the traffic on the site has dropped since the new software was instituted?

Or, has it gone up because of the complaints registered?

Savington 10-27-2018 01:33 PM

When can we expect these stupid fucking fuzzy pictures to go away?

boileralum 10-27-2018 01:46 PM

Perfect example of why scrolling into new threads is bad - https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...6/#post1508539

Guy did a search for an intake filter, responded to what he thought was a search result, but it rolled into a different thread and is now completely out of context. There is a reason that some message boards like this one still flourish - because they are *not* Facebook. They hold information that is in a readily searchable format that also allows relevant discussion. Please stop trying to turn your forums into Facebook. You *will* drive away what is left of your member base.

Savington 10-27-2018 02:20 PM

I mean this in the most serious way possible: IB should fire its entire development team.

Father Torque 10-27-2018 03:03 PM

Firing seems a tad harsh.

Maybe just rape their spouses while the children watch, then slaughter the children while the spouses watch, then slaughter the spouses, and then kick the dog on the way out?

Scaxx 10-27-2018 03:24 PM

https://www.newscentermaine.com/img/...750&height=422

olderguy 10-27-2018 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Father Torque (Post 1508583)
Firing seems a tad harsh.

Maybe just rape their spouses while the children watch, then slaughter the children while the spouses watch, then slaughter the spouses, and then kick the dog on the way out?

What do you have against dogs?

msmola2002 10-27-2018 07:45 PM

FYI, I am not a financially contributing member, however I can see the 1337speak subforum, however cannot post in there. I'm guessing permissions were reset recently during the clusterfuckery above?

concealer404 10-29-2018 07:53 AM

Daily reminder that not one person wants fuzzy pictures.

y8s 10-29-2018 09:35 AM

Here's your furry fuzzy picture for the day

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8c17a2bc11.png

skylinecalvin 10-29-2018 09:39 AM

Among all the dislike, I am enjoying the endless scrolling.

y8s 10-29-2018 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1508577)
I mean this in the most serious way possible: IB should fire its entire development team.

Maybe your beef is also with the vbulletin forum software developers as well. they cooked in all this insane fuckery.

Joe Perez 10-29-2018 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1508762)
Maybe your beef is also with the vbulletin forum software developers as well. they cooked in all this insane fuckery.

IB is the developer of vbulletin. They created this insane fuckery.

Any chance you've got contact info for the lioness in your previous post?




y8s 10-29-2018 02:23 PM

oh shit you're right.

and no, but you can reverse image search it.

Jesse99James 10-30-2018 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1508572)
When can we expect these stupid fucking fuzzy pictures to go away?

Yes, please fix this if at all possible. I'm tired of waiting 3-5 seconds for the FIRST picture on the page to go from fuzzy and unknown to normal clarity.

concealer404 10-30-2018 07:36 AM

Daily reminder that fuzzy pictures are the forum equivalent of AIDS.

portabull 10-30-2018 12:27 PM

jeez, you'd think these guys could fix it. just revert back to a couple of weeks ago already.

Braineack 10-30-2018 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1508577)
I mean this in the most serious way possible: IB should fire its entire development team.

today i wrote code, then sent it to my tester to look at on a staging server.

Joe Perez 10-30-2018 06:43 PM

Today, I did plumbing repair and some minor janitorial services.

For reasons which are still unclear to me, I get paid an embarrassing amount of money for this, and have a "Director" title.

I'm not sure if the people at corporate realize how dirty my jeans and boots usually are.

Erat 10-30-2018 06:52 PM

Today i crawled in a massive pit that i had cleaned the day before (Tyvek suits suck). The pit serves as containment for the 8000 gallon sulfuric acid tank above. While i was down there today, i assessed the state of the four beams that hold up said 8000 gallon 93% sulfuric acid tank.
During the assessment i took a number of pictures. Here is one.

Before i started working here the previous tank had a breach. Polypro only holds up so long to this type of acid. Well when they replaced the tank which involved cutting the roof off and extracting out the top they didn't bother to replace the support legs. Instead they just cut them and shoved some plastic underneath. Odd choice of repair seeing as the containment walls were completely burnt and needed to be fixed. This meant the support had to be removed or at least moved.

Why the legs weren't cut off and replaced with some nice stainless feet is beyond me. Probably a bean counter decision.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...43494cc169.jpg

Joe Perez 10-30-2018 07:08 PM

I still see some metal there.

skylinecalvin 10-30-2018 07:08 PM

Today, I explained to a user that closing her laptop lid will make her monitors go blank...As the laptop will go to sleep by default.

concealer404 10-30-2018 07:12 PM

Hey did anyone ever end up buying a Zoom3?

Joe Perez 10-30-2018 07:33 PM

Actual photo of @IB Nolan, 1938 (colorized):

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c49de22ee3.png

Savington 10-31-2018 01:20 AM

I see the forum images are still in Japanese porn genital mode @IB Nolan

Erat 10-31-2018 04:52 AM

inb4ben

adlz 10-31-2018 05:09 AM

ye image loading wastes lot of time
disabling js dosent help
maybe some js guru could make userscipt that forces images to load
or some god to dump forum db and make new forum
or scrape whole thing

y8s 10-31-2018 09:31 AM

hot take counterpoint: I don't mind the blurry image thing and DO appreciate that the page loading doesn't make where I'm looking jump around like a 6 year old on halloween. Seriously it's a sub one second blurry image on my machine and all the other ones load at the same time so I don't have to see multiple blurry images.

I could also accept a transparent blurry image so it's just white (baby blue) space.

concealer404 10-31-2018 09:34 AM

Daily reminder for @IB Nolan that fuzzy pictures are an assault on the eyes.

y8s 10-31-2018 09:51 AM

stupid observation: the hover bar's user menu is in a different order than the site top user menu. Derp.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b8a6f42086.png
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...52b3fbd7dd.png

codrus 10-31-2018 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1509050)
hot take counterpoint: I don't mind the blurry image thing and DO appreciate that the page loading doesn't make where I'm looking jump around like a 6 year old on halloween. Seriously it's a sub one second blurry image on my machine and all the other ones load at the same time so I don't have to see multiple blurry images.

It's inconsistent. Sometimes it works that way, other times it doesn't bother to try to load an image until I scroll the page down to make it visible. That produces a constant "scroll-fuzz-pause-image load" cycle if I'm trying to scroll through a picture-heavy thread like a build thread. I'd much rather wait a few seconds and let the whole thing load than have to prod it for every couple of images.

--Ian

bahurd 10-31-2018 03:44 PM

Showed up a bit over the past 10 minutes.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...788bdedf04.jpg

Erat 10-31-2018 04:08 PM

Yeah i got that this morning at 6am.

Gee Emm 10-31-2018 05:11 PM

Anyone else getting blocked sites, instead of a jump to a page here? Two of them this morning, Trend Micro was quite cross ...

olderguy 10-31-2018 05:54 PM

Sometimes I can upload attachments, others not, with same procedure.

Jesse99James 11-01-2018 07:13 AM

I'm also getting VERY tired of scrolling quickly down a page (I have infinite scroll turned off) to get to the new posts only to have the window FREEZE. This happens all the time on my machine yet never happened before and doesn't on any other forum. Often, it happens just as I get to the new posts only to reload back to the top of the page. FIX THIS PLEASE! This update SUCKS.

hi_im_sean 11-01-2018 10:00 AM

Ben's secretary here.

Daily reminder @IB Nolan that every time a fuzzy image takes more than 2 seconds to load, a kitten dies.


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