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IB Nolan 11-13-2018 03:28 PM

I didn't forget about you all (mostly because I get reminder emails each day) but I was out of office for a few days.

We are making an adjustment this afternoon to trigger the loading much sooner and hopefully avoid having to see the blurry images load on faster connections.

I'll let you all know once it is live to see if there is a noticeable improvement.

concealer404 11-13-2018 03:38 PM

How about....... just putting the fuzzy picture "feature" on the mobile site? Since it's a "feature" for people with data plans. There is literally absolutely ZERO reason to have it on a desktop site in any capacity other than to piss off your member base.

There just isn't a possible rebuttal to that.

IB Nolan 11-13-2018 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1510933)
How about....... just putting the fuzzy picture "feature" on the mobile site? Since it's a "feature" for people with data plans. There is literally absolutely ZERO reason to have it on a desktop site in any capacity other than to piss off your member base.

There just isn't a possible rebuttal to that.

The goal is to load the entire page faster on desktop and mobile, which this does accomplish. Users on mobile will also see a reduction in data used and that is the biggest direct user benefit.

Basically, Google shows our site pages as loading incredibly slow and we are trying to resolve that problem. We are also working on lazy loading advertisements to speed up the page even further.

Lazy loading images does speed up the entire page load and we see the load times decreasing since it has been added.

But our settings need to be tweaked so you don't see the blurry images on faster connections because it gives the impression that the site is much slower.


concealer404 11-13-2018 03:56 PM

Your site pages load incredibly slow because you keep adding crap to the site that's not necessary, and most of us run like... 60ppp.

Savington 11-13-2018 08:26 PM

@IB Nolan

Reducing loading times by not loading the images is such fucking bullshit, dude. It's like not loading all the posts in a thread, or limiting posts-per-page to 10 (don't you fucking dare). If you limit the content being loaded, the page might APPEAR to load faster on metrics, but the reality is that the repeated loading of each image as it's scrolled to makes whatever thread that is virtually impossible to quickly scan.

You are cheating the metrics by making the forum shittier. Stop it.

IB Nolan 11-13-2018 08:29 PM

There have been changes made today that seem to improve the loading times significantly. Let me know if the blurred images are as bad as they were prior.

Jesse99James 11-13-2018 08:45 PM

No change here, still seeing 3-5 seconds blur and jerky scrolling hesitation while images load. Still crap on my desktop with fast cable service.

cal_len1 11-13-2018 08:46 PM

Idk, seems much faster to me than the forum ever has been.

IB Nolan 11-13-2018 09:19 PM

Thanks for testing.

It seems to come in waves with some large file size pics loading fairly instantly and other smaller images still hanging up at random. The full images should be loaded by the time you have them centered on your screen.

I am using this section of the cat thread as a test: https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs...5/#post1378917

Let me talk with our image hosting folks to see why the speed and download times aren't consistent.

Savington 11-13-2018 09:43 PM

Tried that test.

This image took so long to de-fuzzify that I had time to think "man, this sucks", then think "I should screencap this", then find the PrintScreen button on my laptop, then press it.

Come on.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...52670ebf58.png

Joe Perez 11-13-2018 10:05 PM

?

The image looks fine to me.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0da0642317.png

Savington 11-13-2018 10:17 PM

I like this game.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...983a8798df.png

Savington 11-13-2018 10:18 PM

Note that Joe has Photoshop or similar to fuzzy up the images.

I'm too lazy, so I just let the forum do it for me.

Joe Perez 11-13-2018 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1510990)

I'm not seeing the problem here. Have you tried clearing your browser cache?

icantlearn 11-14-2018 12:20 AM

sarcasm > me

Savington 11-14-2018 12:25 AM

[/sarcasm]

sixshooter 11-14-2018 07:56 AM

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...5/download.gif

Braineack 11-14-2018 08:54 AM

lol. you guys made it worse. just remove the junk!

Midtenn 11-14-2018 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1511049)
lol. you guys made it worse. just remove the junk!

I agree. I wasn't having issues with fuzzy images before (work PC cranked up for running large 3D CAD models), but now I'm getting fuzzy images.

aidandj 11-14-2018 09:46 AM

Y'all need glasses. smh
https://media1.tenor.com/images/3044...itemid=5188412

Savington 11-14-2018 12:52 PM

lol @IB Nolan your devs should all be looking for work as baristas. This is fucking ridiculous.

Just remove the feature from the site. Stop trying to fix it, stop trying to make it better, stop trying to fuck with it. Just remove it. It doesn't work, and we're really sick of your devs using us as guinea pigs trying to make it work. Go shit all over someone else's forum, like Mustang owners or NASIOC or whatever other properties IB has.

Just do it. No more excuses. Get rid of them. Today.

concealer404 11-14-2018 12:54 PM

Hello Andrew. Would you like to take advantage of a free introductory offer for forum sponsorship on a forum that doesn't continually trash coding?

I have that power.

sixshooter 11-14-2018 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1511101)
Hello Andrew. Would you like to take advantage of a free introductory offer for forum sponsorship on a forum that doesn't continually trash coding?

I have that power.

Lol. This might be the day he takes you up on that.

I don't even think I have an account on cock rockstar. Is it nice over there? Last time I even looked had to be 6 or 8 years ago.

concealer404 11-14-2018 01:22 PM

The site works great. Traffic is low due to a password-geddon that happened a year or two ago.

I hear the admin is a pretty cool dude, though.

portabull 11-14-2018 01:25 PM

you've made it worse, way worse than it was two days ago, which is worse, way worse, than it was three weeks ago. just admit failure and rewind to a month ago already.

shlammed 11-14-2018 01:58 PM

just had a page error, crashed IE with long script and the page had 2 images. this is terrible.

Too bad your advertiser rates were minimum $300/mo and you're breaking shit.

Braineack 11-14-2018 02:06 PM

ill write a tampermonkey script using my defeat i posted before, so all the images will just load regularlly -- since our overlords decided they know what's best for us despite us telling them they dont.

sixshooter 11-14-2018 02:27 PM

Scott will save the forum yet again!

y8s 11-14-2018 02:42 PM

tampermonkey is a chrome addon.

hi_im_sean 11-14-2018 02:51 PM

Denial is a river in Egypt.

concealer404 11-14-2018 02:54 PM

Clear pictures are a thing that happens on Clubchoadster.

Braineack 11-14-2018 03:09 PM

MMTGA

Braineack 11-14-2018 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1511138)
tampermonkey is a chrome addon.

correct. still on netscape?

y8s 11-14-2018 04:11 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5f1b1785ef.png


Come on now.

Braineack 11-14-2018 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1511159)

Image is too blurry to tell what browser.

y8s 11-14-2018 05:31 PM

IRRELEVANT. shows add-on logo with rounded black square containing two white circles filling up the lower half of the logo. you may recognizer.

Monk 11-14-2018 05:57 PM

@IB Nolan Are you trying to make club roadster great again!?

concealer404 11-14-2018 06:01 PM

Ya'all making a splash. Seems the Clubroadster guys have gotten wind of what's going on here and have made a sitewide forum announcement.

IB Nolan 11-14-2018 06:49 PM

it is finished.

Scaxx 11-14-2018 06:53 PM

Thaaaaaaaanks Nolan!

concealer404 11-14-2018 07:05 PM

Hey @IB Nolan pictures look great, thanks!

But now Google seems to be reporting slow page loads at Miataturbo.net. What's the deal?

Braineack 11-14-2018 07:35 PM

so much better.

hi_im_sean 11-14-2018 08:08 PM

Nolan, just saved a forum
Put a gun against his head, fixed the forum, so its not dead
Nolan, dev team's life had just begun
But now you've gone and thrown it all away
NOLAN!!!!!!!, ooh, totally meant to make you cry
Fuzzy pictures won't be back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on as if clubroadster doesn't really matter

sixshooter 11-14-2018 08:36 PM

What is Jeff?

Braineack 11-15-2018 08:38 AM

whats funny is i was in the middle of working on a script to defeat when it was suddenly working, and i kept checking my code to figure out how i could have accidentally fixed it.

mreakus 11-15-2018 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1511184)
Hey @IB Nolan pictures look great, thanks!

But now Google seems to be reporting slow page loads at Miataturbo.net. What's the deal?

Gosh this place is funny. Poscat for you.

Reverant 11-16-2018 07:30 AM

Don't we have any SJWs in here to post in utter outrage about how sexist it is to not have fuzzy images and how the patriarchy oppressed @IB Nolan to remove the feature?

https://www.mslabs.gr/tenor2.gif

Jesse99James 11-16-2018 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Jesse99James (Post 1510977)
No change here, still seeing 3-5 seconds blur and jerky scrolling hesitation while images load. Still crap on my desktop with fast cable service.

It's good now, no more fuzziness. Thanks!

I think it's time to leave my modem unplugged overnight to see if it resets, otherwise I need to call Comcast and have them reset whatever they do. Also, I may have been streaming a movie last time I checked for fuzzy pictures. DUH!

shlammed 11-19-2018 10:14 AM

I held out because I wanted to like the forum features... but turning off autoscroll and related threads made the page load 100x faster.

related threads was dumb though.

shuiend 11-20-2018 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 1511768)
I held out because I wanted to like the forum features... but turning off autoscroll and related threads made the page load 100x faster.

related threads was dumb though.

Related threads helps bump page view and some other backend statistics. They were mostly things that non-members actively used and viewed. From what I have been told over the long run the majority of page views come from non-members and such. So being able to monetize them is important to staying open. As to why non members think those features are good overall among a large quantity of sites boggles my mind. But it can be hard to argue with actual data.

Erat 11-27-2018 09:37 PM

Anyone else getting database error?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dfce6db595.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4deeac76a6.jpg

SpartanSV 11-27-2018 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1512645)
Anyone else getting database error?

Yes. For the last hour or two.

Der_Idiot 11-27-2018 11:54 PM

Glad it wasn't only me.

shuiend 11-28-2018 08:47 AM

Nolan accidentally flipped a switch 2 days early. DB errors were not supposed to start until tomorrow evening.

Joe Perez 11-28-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1512676)
Nolan accidentally flipped a switch 2 days early. DB errors were not supposed to start until tomorrow evening.

:bowrofl:

SpartanSV 11-28-2018 06:01 PM

Still getting occasional DB errors.

Is giving an error and forcing a refresh the newest idea for boosting metrics?

concealer404 11-28-2018 06:02 PM

DB errors out the wazoo.

Erat 11-28-2018 06:08 PM

@Robb M.

msmola2002 11-28-2018 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by SpartanSV (Post 1512730)
Still getting occasional DB errors.

Is giving an error and forcing a refresh the newest idea for boosting metrics?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...eea7c89003.jpg

shuiend 11-28-2018 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by SpartanSV (Post 1512730)
Still getting occasional DB errors.

Is giving an error and forcing a refresh the newest idea for boosting metrics?

Part of Nolan's plan is that the.DB errors don't show up in New Relic. So admins have no idea. That Nolan guy is a pretty clever fella.


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