miataturbo.net-like debauchery thread (about the ND or something)
#3001
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Definitely not just Hailey. Most of my customers get in the car and crank it one way or the other. Sometimes I want to ask them "Do you REALLY want it to be 90 degrees in here? REALLY FOOL?"
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-auto climate control
This is actually a pretty **** feature to those that don't have it (crap, I mean it's a "great" feature - sorry about the locker room talk). Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car. My value: $400.
This is actually a pretty **** feature to those that don't have it (crap, I mean it's a "great" feature - sorry about the locker room talk). Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car. My value: $400.
Also, those hot flashes tho.
#3004
Unless of course my wife is driving - she will forever not get the point of climate control. If she's cold, it will always be set to the highest temperature, if she's warm, it will forever be set to max cold. The end result is just about the same as a very large percentage of women who I have ridden with, regardless of a climate control option, whose blower vents are always set to "boeing 747" and are never actually comfortable in their car.
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Large construction equipment all has automatic a/c temp control. Even still I can't get in a machine that hasn't been set to 63F by the previous inhabitant. I use it properly but would still prefer cable operated simplicity and reliability.
#3006
Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as ****. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.
#3007
Auto climate control systems are stupid, I'd much rather have the old three-*****-and-two-buttons version that my NB uses.
Why are they stupid? Well, they're using a thermostat to target a given interior ambient air temperature. In a house that's not a bad idea, because that's a good proxy for occupant comfort level. In a car it's not, the big panes of glass everywhere means that the question of whether or not the sun is beating down on you is much more relevant than in a house. I don't *want* the car to be at 70F, what I want is to be able to directly control the temperature and speed of the air that's blowing on me.
--Ian
Why are they stupid? Well, they're using a thermostat to target a given interior ambient air temperature. In a house that's not a bad idea, because that's a good proxy for occupant comfort level. In a car it's not, the big panes of glass everywhere means that the question of whether or not the sun is beating down on you is much more relevant than in a house. I don't *want* the car to be at 70F, what I want is to be able to directly control the temperature and speed of the air that's blowing on me.
--Ian
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20 years in Anchorage, AK.
Known to be cold.
And working under stacks and stacks of lights all summer, where plastic screens were melting.
Or, translating training lectures for equine vets in the field, in 40C weather (100+F) in southern Turkey...
Didn't bother me.
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Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as ****. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.
Compare to Subaru's offerings. Our 2006 Outback in New Zealand appeared to have climate control, it would let you set a temperature, but worked so miserably I was manually adjusting what/where/how hard it blew all the time, but with stupid have-to-look-at-them buttons instead of the 3-**** manual control standard that has existed for decades that allows you to just adjust that **** without taking your eyes off the road. Our 2016 Outback here in the States is quite a bit better, but still makes weird decisions about where to have the fan blowing sometimes.
The Odyssey just works.
#3013
Until you drive a vehicle in which it just works. Our 2006 Odyssey has excellent logic controlling the hvac system. Other than adjusting the temp up or down a bit, maybe hitting the defroster button, I don't have to interact with it at all. It just works. Triple zone allows everyone to be comfortable (only driver/passenger are automatic, rear is adjust as you want).
--Ian
#3015
Well to be fair, we live in Florida and it's hot as ****. I leave the climate control in my Sequoia to the coldest temperature at all times and just adjust the fan speed because it never makes it so cold I am uncomfortable. I only use an actual temperature when it's cool outside and I need it warmer in the vehicle. That is a fairly rare occurrence.
#3016
You do know that if you just left it set at 60whatever it would just do exactly what you're doing now right? The auto climat control in the wrx is awesome. If you set it cole when its blisteringy hot outside it'll run everything full blast and then slowly bring the fan speed down while full cold, and if it manages to keep up at that point once the fan is low it'll start blending in some warm air, but it'll never get to that if its over 90.
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Starting to sound like miata.net in here! This must be remedied.
Taking the ND out to the GTA Finals in a few weeks. We'll be running it in the entry-level Enthusiast RWD class. Looking at the entries, we're going to be up against M3s, 350Z, etc. Should be fun.
Taking the ND out to the GTA Finals in a few weeks. We'll be running it in the entry-level Enthusiast RWD class. Looking at the entries, we're going to be up against M3s, 350Z, etc. Should be fun.