Scaxx

Woah, I'd never heard of that before, that's sweet. As for the more volume with a more powerful version, I really don't know. Sometime I think miata buyers/owners are too cheap to buy a more powerful version, just look at the msm. I mean sure it wasn't a massive increase in power, but it was what people had been asking for, a more powerful miata, and it didn't sell that well. Sometimes I think the same thing, let's just hope they continue to keep it alive.

ridethecliche

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That was the reason I was thinking that there could be a mazda supported kit!

codrus

The MSM was stupid. They put a turbo on a BP and made 30 hp with a stupid turbo that takes forever to spool but also had no top end. Then they handed it out to the dealers who stuck a $5-10K markup on it and were surprised that it didn't sell. Duh. Once they'd sat on dealer lots for a few months, had the markup removed, and FM had released some enchilada parts, the leftover ones got snapped up quickly.

From this, Mazda management decided that there was no market for a higher-power factory Miata.

--Ian

Chilicharger665

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Yeah the MSM was a total half-baked idea, with 1/4 baked implementation. My 04 had horrendous engine management and it just wasn't done right. Mazda needs some excitement, but I can't see them doing any sort of FI.

ridethecliche

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Haha, this is the best summary of everything.

turbofan

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Not only did they finally sell without markup, they sold at HUGELY discounted prices. I remember test driving a new '04 that had been there a year or so. MSRP was in the $29k range, and it was being offered at $21k.

Absurd.

Absolutely LOVED that car... My 18 year old self couldn't decide if I wanted that or an SRT-4 more though...

Diamond Dave

The Miata owner demographic is actually really narrow and Mazda has specifically kept the car in line with that market; making it fun, easy, and rewarding to drive for almost every driver skill level.

A more powerful (OEM) Miata will begin to expose the delicate balance and impact of Gram Strategy in addition to pitting the car against more powerful competitors in a different segment (where it wouldn't fare well).

turbofan

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I don't agree that another 50-70 hp would put the Miata in a different segment. It'd take it up to $40k ish for a loaded one probably, which is a lot of scratch for a Miata, but it's still less than a loaded Mustang GT or Camaro convertible or 370Z, and far less than even a simple Boxster or Z4... incidentally, the same vehicles most people cross shop them with currently.

But it isn't gonna happen. Mazda is very conservative right now.

concealer404

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Damn the transmissions, full speed ahead!

BBR launches stunning Mazda MX-5 / Miata ND Stage 1 turbo upgrade | BBR GTi

glade

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Concealor404 is back!?!?!?!?!!

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ridethecliche

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Again, this is why I like the option of a kit. It allows mazda to say it's an option without going nuts figuring out everything else.

aidandj

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But they have to figure everything else. Is it covered under warranty? If so there's another chunk of money and engineers testing it, and then warranty coverage costs. No warranty? Then just go aftermarket.

You aren't grasping the amount of work it takes for a car manufacturer (or any other large or small business) to make changes and offer different configurations.

turbofan

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^ exactly.

Partnering with a company to produce a Mazda-approved kit would be just as costly and probably even more complex than if they just did it all themselves... Unless they don't cover it under warranty.. and if that's the case then what's the point?

sixshooter

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And it would be emissions certified.

Lexzar

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As a California resident, I would pay a premium to have a turbo miata actually street legal.

ridethecliche

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Letttt meeee liveeee thissss fairrryyyyyy taleeeee

18psi

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it's funny cause the automotive OEM "enthusiast" world has completely flip-flopped in the last few years: import manuf's will now void your warranty, disrespec ur famiry, and basically burn you at the stake for even looking at a power modification for your whatever it is.
Meanwhile 'Muricuhh manuf's are pumping out numerous absurdly high powered iterations of many of their models, offering track versions of said cars, and even offering big power adders which can be bought with a warranty.

It's like the old days all over again.

I love my factory equipped launch control and line lock

Anyways, nothing to see here, keep on dreamin rish

shuiend

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​​​​​​​FM will be the US distributor for the BBR turbo setup for the ND and they are working on CARB approval currently.

18psi

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Using the latest in engine management technology, called the YOU221, based on a groundbreaking new technology called the poopoo box, which includes support for your entire ancestry for several generations.

EO2K

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BBR is working on CARB approval, or FM is working on CARB approval?