I don't mind buying "under powered" daily drivers. It just makes the turbo Miata feel so much more fun on the weekends. full economy and comfort are my two biggest criteria for DD cars. That and having enough power to not struggle to much going up hills.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
(Post 1166657)
Kia can manage 130hp from their 1.6L NA engine. I am sure Mazda could pull out 128hp from a 1.5L. It would blow my mind if a modern engine with DI and 13:1 compression was only putting out 66hp/L (100bhp).
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
(Post 1166643)
We all know what happens when Mazda tries to be clever (see: current Skyactiv-D, rotaries, etc).
Originally Posted by cyotani
(Post 1166659)
I don't mind buying "under powered" daily drivers. It just makes the turbo Miata feel so much more fun on the weekends. full economy and comfort are my two biggest criteria for DD cars. That and having enough power to not struggle to much going up hills.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1166673)
But Mazda could do so much better in the American market if the car was more than just "adequate" at full throttle. If it was adequate at 60 percent throttle and "wow, that's quick" at full throttle, what would be the harm? I can only see where that would help their sales.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1166675)
The difference would probably be like 3-5k in starting price though.
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Originally Posted by RedCarmel
(Post 1166593)
How was it botched?
Promised, then delayed, then delayed, then delayed, then delayed until further notice. To quote a Mazda rep, "we avoid [questions about the diesel] like the plague." Have you SEEN the 6 wagon diesel? If it were here, I WOULD buy one. |
Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
(Post 1166601)
They've been having reliability issues, like huge ones. It doesn't use urea injection and they tried to do something clever and it blew up in their faces.
I think that owners are being advised to check their oil at every fill-up and they have to change the oil super frequently. Something like 3k miles on 0W20 oil. It's been semi-well documented. It is by far the most sold engine option in Europe, and any issues would be well documented. 20Kkm or once a year oil change interval. I have one. |
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1166705)
In terms of the US market, the fact that it never arrived.
Promised, then delayed, then delayed, then delayed, then delayed until further notice. To quote a Mazda rep, "we avoid [questions about the diesel] like the plague." Have you SEEN the 6 wagon diesel? If it were here, I WOULD buy one. The Skyactiv D is a pretty radical engine though, I think it has less static compression than their gas engine. I hear that railroads are having similar problems with their low compression high speed engines as well. |
Originally Posted by lassi
(Post 1166711)
IDK how all the stupid internet conspiracy theories about the diesel comes to life, buth the simple truth is that Mazda does not believe the US consumer wants to buy a diesel.
It is by far the most sold engine option in Europe, and any issues would be well documented. 20Kkm or once a year oil change interval. I have one. It's not a conspiracy to say "I want a turbo diesel Mazda6, but Mazda's been having issues with their motor technology". I would think that once the Mazda6 gets a mid-cycle refresh, there's a nonzero chance that it'll come with a revised motor and possibly be for sale in Etats-Uni~. |
As i raise my beer i say:
"Here's to hoping Mazda is trolling us all. They will be giving us a 1.6l engine with a itty bitty turbo that produces a healthy 180whp all while netting us 35+ mpg highway. No turbo lag, plenty of low end torque, and all for around $23,000." (FiestaST) |
It's just too bad it's wrong wheel drive.
Fantastic car though. If I were in the market for a new hatchback and I decided against the TDI, I'd go with the Fiesta ST. Winner. |
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1166761)
It's just too bad it's wrong wheel drive.
Fantastic car though. If I were in the market for a new hatchback and I decided against the TDI, I'd go with the Fiesta ST. Winner. |
Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
(Post 1166735)
It was with the CX-5 and a diesel particulate filter fouling the oil. There's a bunch of .au sites that have issues and press releases.
It's not a conspiracy to say "I want a turbo diesel Mazda6, but Mazda's been having issues with their motor technology". I would think that once the Mazda6 gets a mid-cycle refresh, there's a nonzero chance that it'll come with a revised motor and possibly be for sale in Etats-Uni~. There has also been a recall to adress this. Replaces a pressure sensor in the exhaust system and reprogram of the ecu. Funny how all other markets than NA is getting diesels. That makes me certain that the problem is the consumers, cheap gasoline and not a "botched" engine design... |
FOR THE RECORD...
I never said they botched the design. They botched it for the US by not bringing it here. Also, that sounds like a pretty big deal. |
Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
(Post 1166419)
When did FM announce a coilover kit?
FOX $1700 including new front top hats (reuse existing rears), they are working on the final valving setup now. He also mentioned FOX will revalve the shocks for free in the first 90 days if you aren't happy. |
Motortrend "reported" that the ND is getting the 1.5L for at least a year before an optional engine opens up.
I put scare quotes around "reported" as a reminder that car magazines had to step up their bullshit fabrication game when blogs started to poach their territory. Car magazines are the printed version of the kid down the street's uncle who totally works at Nintendo. Mnet is freaking out because of course they are. I'm waiting until the Paris Auto Show for any new information. |
I'll believe it when i see it.
Then again, 1.5l with FI. :party: |
Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
(Post 1167639)
Motortrend "reported" that the ND is getting the 1.5L for at least a year before an optional engine opens up.
I put scare quotes around "reported" as a reminder that car magazines had to step up their bullshit fabrication game when blogs started to poach their territory. Car magazines are the printed version of the kid down the street's uncle who totally works at Nintendo. Mnet is freaking out because of course they are. I'm waiting until the Paris Auto Show for any new information. |
Oi.
People, it's going to have more than 130hp. It has to. Even notoriously underpowered Mazda isn't dumb enough to do that in the US market. There's no way. Is there? I'm sure it'll be available with that engine in other markets, but I can't see them doing it here. |
Mazda knows NA/NB owners are more likely to buy in to the ND than they were the NC. There is no way they are releasing the car with nearly identical power and weight numbers as an NA8.
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