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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1164789)
Almost every turbo subaru knocks from the factory on 91. Thats why the owners manual says 93 minimum. I'm surprised they even sell them in shitty states that dont offer proper gasoline.
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that rear is so ugly.
Why do designers continue to design in fake bumpers? this isn't 1950 anymore. cars don't have big chrome bumpers bolted to them anymore. |
I think it looks rad. Would buy, when I can get one for less than 10k :giggle:
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Makes me glad my daily gets 48 mpg so I don't feel guilty hooning in the Miata constantly.
The cool thing is that I averaged 30 mpg on the way down to MRLS. Probably could do better when I get the cruise control installed. |
Gordon thanks for that straight-on rear shot. I have never looked at it from that angle and... I don't like that view.
Love the rest of it though. I feel like its more of a natural progression from the NB in the nose, almost like the bloaty-looking NC never existed. |
Keep in mind the wide FOV in the photo exaggerates how bulbous the rear end it.
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Remember, it's a stock powered Miata, so not many cars will be seeing it from behind ;)
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1164975)
that rear is so ugly.
Why do designers continue to design in fake bumpers? this isn't 1950 anymore. cars don't have big chrome bumpers bolted to them anymore. As someone who has actually designed a car, I'm going to give Derek Jenkins and crew some serious latitude, as these guys need to satisfy not only U.S. corporate but Japan too. THAT is a tall order for something as petty as a shift knob, let alone and entire car. The ND is a wider car, which is why I think the designers pinched the back and put the taillights closer together. They're fooling the eye into thinking that you're not looking at a squat, wide pug of a car. Bottom line for me is this is my favorite MX-5. By far. Under the skin they're doing what Porsche has done for decades, which is improve on a good design. Outside they've put a modern skin on the car with some classic references, and dropped 100Kg. Finally, all you guys who say it looks like a BMW, or BRZ, or Jaguar (whatever)...good cars share proper proportions. There's only so much change you can do to a car to make it look good, without making it look wrong. FWIW if the 250TR came out now, it would be universally panned as ugly. Designs build on other designs, and the reference to other cars is part of why people say, "Oh, they did it better than XYZ." |
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Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 1165085)
Because legal and DOT.
As someone who has actually designed a car, I'm going to give Derek Jenkins and crew some serious latitude, as these guys need to satisfy not only U.S. corporate but Japan too. THAT is a tall order for something as petty as a shift knob, let alone and entire car. The ND is a wider car, which is why I think the designers pinched the back and put the taillights closer together. They're fooling the eye into thinking that you're not looking at a squat, wide pug of a car. Bottom line for me is this is my favorite MX-5. By far. Under the skin they're doing what Porsche has done for decades, which is improve on a good design. Outside they've put a modern skin on the car with some classic references, and dropped 100Kg. Finally, all you guys who say it looks like a BMW, or BRZ, or Jaguar (whatever)...good cars share proper proportions. There's only so much change you can do to a car to make it look good, without making it look wrong. FWIW if the 250TR came out now, it would be universally panned as ugly. Designs build on other designs, and the reference to other cars is part of why people say, "Oh, they did it better than XYZ." Amen |
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1164975)
that rear is so ugly.
Why do designers continue to design in fake bumpers? this isn't 1950 anymore. cars don't have big chrome bumpers bolted to them anymore. I didn't really see anything fake in the picture other than the jut, which is useful in low speed crashes. its not that nice to look at, but it might save you when little Brittney is texting in stop & go traffic. |
Completely keyless trunk on this one? Hmm.
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I think all mazdas are that way now. My 2012 2 is and it is kind of irritating. Especially since mazda only gave me one remote key and I let my wife have that one.
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Originally Posted by Erat
(Post 1165215)
Completely keyless trunk on this one? Hmm.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1165223)
360° Reversal from the original car which didnt even have a keyless entry to the trunk. |
When Mazda saw that rear end they turned 360 degrees and walked away
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All this talk about turning 360 degrees? If you were looking at the car and saw the rear end and turned 360 degrees to walk away, you would walk directly into the car. A 360* "reversal" from the original car would have seen an initial car with key only entry, followed by a car with keyless only entry, and would have come back to a car with a key only entry.
The correct term is "did a complete 180". In this case, "a complete 360" is an exaggeration of the term, which ironically means the exact opposite of the term being exaggerated. I was going to let it go as trolling (it looks like niklas has it figured out) but "I can't stands for this no more!" :vash: |
Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 1165401)
When Mazda saw that rear end they turned 360 degrees and walked away
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Let's keep the level a clear notch over the Mnet overexplaineverythingorthenoobswillflameus.
How will you bolt in a rollbar on the ND? Similar to the NC or even worse? The fastback fixed coupé will not have that problem of course, but that one will not be the volume. |
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