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Mobius 09-07-2014 01:17 AM

I keep thinking the C7 should be this car with 400 hp.

DeerHunter 09-07-2014 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1164674)
I keep thinking the C7 should be this car with 400 hp.

You could wait for the inevitable LSx swap from Flyin' Miata.

18psi 09-07-2014 02:28 AM

MT: we don't even know what engine it will have, but we're already planning the engine swap

:party:

Lokiel 09-07-2014 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1164685)
MT: we don't even know what engine it will have, but we're already planning the engine swap

:party:

It'll be a high compression SkyActiv engine which means it's pretty much wringing out its maximum power anyway and not necessarily suited to turbocharging.

Nagase 09-07-2014 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by Lokiel (Post 1164690)
It'll be a high compression SkyActiv engine which means it's pretty much wringing out its maximum power anyway and not necessarily suited to turbocharging.

Which is perfect, as it'll complete this forum's transformation into n/atrackdaymiatabro.net

NiklasFalk 09-07-2014 05:23 AM

It's just a challenge to get turbocharging to work at 14:1 + 87 octane by superior control.
Just whip out the solder iron and the software developing abilities.

Braineack 09-07-2014 09:54 AM

I thought I saw one on the roadtrip I just had, but it was just a z4.

my97miata 09-07-2014 10:49 AM

If the ND has direct injection as it should then turbo charging it shouldn't be too difficult. Direct injection will eliminate any detonation concerns.
Actually, a high compression ratio/direct injection engine will be good for a turbo because you won't need high boost (about 5 psi) to get decent power of it.

18psi 09-07-2014 12:21 PM

Direct injection doesn't eliminate detonation concerns. The new wrx knocks like crazy off the showroom floor on 91 oct, with direct injection.
Plenty of other cars do as well.
It will make boosting a high compression engine a possibility though.

hornetball 09-07-2014 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 1164691)
Which is perfect, as it'll complete this forum's transformation into n/atrackdaymiatabro.net

LOL. Guilty.

Leafy 09-07-2014 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1164761)
Direct injection doesn't eliminate detonation concerns. The new wrx knocks like crazy off the showroom floor on 91 oct, with direct injection.
Plenty of other cars do as well.
It will make boosting a high compression engine a possibility though.

Almost every turbo subaru knocks from the factory on 91. Thats why the owners manual says 93 minimum. I'm surprised they even sell them in shitty states that dont offer proper gasoline.

18psi 09-07-2014 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1164789)
Almost every turbo subaru knocks from the factory on 91. Thats why the owners manual says 93 minimum. I'm surprised they even sell them in shitty states that dont offer proper gasoline.

Same with evo's, and many other cars.

But that's not the point.

My point is: DI doesn't eliminate knock. If anything, e85 "eliminates" knock.

Leafy 09-07-2014 01:15 PM

It does certainly help reduce knock in some cars. But that can also be from the different head and pistons shapes too.

NiklasFalk 09-07-2014 01:17 PM

Turbo on the BP have been done and is so vanilla that even TSE have a kit. ;)
Since it's no challenge its more fun to try to get a decent N/A engine out of the BP. Heck, even Rotrex start to get some attention.

Making the SkyActiv 2.0 bend its rods with full control on an unopened engine is the challenge. Who will be first?

How different is the SkyActive to the MRZ fitmentvise?
Swapping one into a NC mule to learn something about tuning it?

MS4 would have no problem improving on the direct injection, right?

sixshooter 09-07-2014 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1164721)
I thought I saw one on the roadtrip I just had, but it was just a z4.

Soon Z4 owners will be buying body kits to make them look like ND MX-5s.

AlwaysOnKill 09-07-2014 08:27 PM

Anyone have a real picture of the Abarth Spider? Since it's the twin of the ND.

EO2K 09-08-2014 12:29 AM

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Please forgive the shitty quality, its a cell phone and the light in the big tent was terrible. For a couple of the rear end shots I had to creep behind the security guy and lean out, so its not level. This is the "roller" not the "driver" so it had what looked like black cardboard blacking out the backside of the rims, behind the cardboard calipers and rotors.

Does no one else have better pics? I can't have been the only one there snapping away at this thing.

Zaphod 09-08-2014 04:34 AM

I am sorry, but I don't get that design... that rear makes me want to puke, looks like a Nissan Juke front mashed on the back of the 5....

rleete 09-08-2014 05:40 AM

I could do without the dual exhaust tips. Is that supposed to make it more powerful?

Mobius 09-08-2014 06:13 AM

What I like is there are three dials for HVAC controls, AS GOD INTENDED. You can adjust function, fan speed, and fan direction by hand and by touch without looking away from the road.

If I have a "serious" complaint about this car, I could whine about why couldn't they cover the front wheels with the front bumper for once. But whatever, it looks good, and in ten years the natrackdaybrah cars will all have flat airdam noses anyway. Which ... now that I look at it again with that in mind, does not look nearly as simple as for an NA/NB.


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