I'm holding out for the TSE turbo kit for the ND!

Dont worry, TDR will be on it.

Atleast their kit will hit the market

To totally derail the thread, the FR-S/BRZ isn't a victim of lack of power, it's the sound and torque curve that's utterly snore-inducing. I had a BRZ on order actually, but got my deposit back after 2 test drives when the car arrived because I couldn't get over how boring the engine was, despite seeing the gauges moving.

A stock NC has similar power-to-weight to the twins on paper, but it's waaaay more interesting because it doesn't sound like a wheezy Corolla and has some sort of crescendo and/or sense of occasion to the power delivery, even if the delivery quantity is modest.

Anyway, the ND will likely have a smidge more than the 155 HP the Mazda3 engine has. Let's just hope/pray the sense of occasion is just as strong as the previous Miatae.....and that it can be boosted, LOL

I don't know, a BRZ + unequal length header sounds pretty tasty to me.

I'm waiting to see what the mid-cycle update is going to be.

I will not consider the ND unless it is literally able to leap over the top of Mustang GTs.

Off the showroom floor it sounded terrible. I haven't yet heard an BRZ w/UEL, but I'm sure it's 1,000,000x better sounding. If it sounds 1/10th a WRX then it'd be cool enough. In the end though, the top doesn't go down [or off a la Exige] so I'll always inherently prefer the Miata.

I'm hoping Mazda quickly announces the retractable hardtop Miata, because that's the best of both worlds IMO. No utility-knife car jackings via soft top, and car looks nicely coupe-ish with top up, yet top goes away when motoring.

US is getting the 2.0L Skyactiv, the rest of the world can get fucked with the 1.5L.

Was that confirmed somewhere?

I LOL'd.

Only place I've seen of it is Jalopnik.
2016 Mazda Miata Will Have 2.0 SKYACTIV Engine In USA, 1.5 Elsewhere

In for 2.5L SkyActiv-G swap from a Mazda 6

Wheels magazine Australia, one of the better-informed rags, stated that Australia would be getting the 2.0L version so I'm guessing the 1.5L version is mostly destined for Europe.

In Europe aren't there there regi$tration $aving$ to be had for smaller capacity engines?

In Australia it's based on the number of engine cylinders so there's no difference between the 1.5 and 2.0L engines with regard to that.

Unless there's a turbo-charged 1.5L ND available, I doubt the 1.5L ND will be saleable in Australia beyond the initial introduction.

So it seems the 1.5 is the BASE model everywhere, with the 2.0 optional.

The USA ONLY gets the 2.0l.

I really, really hope it makes more than the 155hp in the mazda 3...

I was hoping to have the ND be just at 200 from the factory but I think my dreams are being crushed now :(

Wait... has anyone actually seen this Paris Auto Show press kit? I see one reference to a tipster talking to Jalponik and absolutely nothing from anywhere else. The information super highway seems to be pretty fucking terrible at providing sources and documentation.

To refer to a comment earlier in the thread, how do we know this isn't just more blogspam and speculation again from the kids uncle who totally works Nintendo?

someone posted it on the internet

must be legit

Thats funny because the initial 1.5L rumors came from some australian pub. Read a few pages back.

Not really surprised. The 1.5L is just not going to cut it here in the US. And yea...just under 200hp from factory is pretty wishful. Lets drop 200lbs and add 20hp real quick. Factory 10:1 weight to power for the NE!

A few people have called up Mazda USA and it's been confirmed from Mazda that the US is getting a 2.0L engine.

I think it would be great if the ND had 200HP, but it's not going to happen so there's no use crying over milk that wasn't even poured into a glass to be later spilled.

If the weight comes in at 2250lbs and 155hp, it will still have a better power/weight ratio than the NC. However I would think it would be easy enough to put slightly bigger cams in the 2.0L to bump it up to the 167hp the NC made. That would give it 13.5 lbs/hp or so, right around the Toyubaru.

While making significantly more torque than the Toyobaru. :party: