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Dunning Kruger Affect 03-05-2015 11:50 AM

People on mnet are already discussing depowering the steering. lololololol

Erat 03-05-2015 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1212261)
Fiat version will also have Iveco (Fiat) diesel as an option. 106hp 2.3l 200ft lbs.

Geared for the Bonneville salt flats?

Leafy 03-05-2015 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect (Post 1212271)
People on mnet are already discussing depowering the steering. lololololol

Obviously none of them have driven an RX8. The electric power steering rack in that car is the best thing going on in that engine bay.

18psi 03-05-2015 11:54 AM

depowering the electric steering? :laugh:

EO2K 03-05-2015 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1212276)
depowering the electric steering? :laugh:

Are you surprised? :hahano: :facepalm:

sixshooter 03-05-2015 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1212274)
Geared for the Bonneville salt flats?

Idk, but the VW TDI cars have MPG ratings that help them sell well in Europe and aren't exactly slow.

BTW, I looked up that engine and there are already 126hp and 146hp versions of it, 258 ft lbs. Reflash, anyone?

Dunning Kruger Affect 03-05-2015 12:24 PM

They're theorizing that pulling the second pinion out and looping a line or some shit is going to be the way to depower the rack. I should go dorito to see if DEPOWERING THE RACK is a popular option on S2Ks... you know, a car that is renowned for having shitty steering feel.

hornetball 03-05-2015 12:25 PM

Isn't Mazda's current prototype racer a diesel too?

sixshooter 03-05-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1212284)
Isn't Mazda's current prototype racer a diesel too?

A Fiat factoid about the 2014 Chevy Cruze diesel

turbofan 03-06-2015 03:31 PM

Re my Alfa 4C comment: turns out that's a 1.7, but still a very similar motor to the Abarth's 1.4.

I think most folks who are thinking about screwing with the factory steering haven't driven a 2014+ Mazda 3, 6, or CX-5. The steering is scary good, especially on the 3. I wouldn't change a thing. My favorite steering of any car I've ever driven.

ctdrftna 03-06-2015 07:27 PM

Yeah I can't complain about my CX-5 , feels very good for a crossover

Chilicharger665 03-09-2015 01:50 AM

I read the new Car and Driver with the ND on the cover. They claim the engine has a new exhaust, intake manifold, and cylinder head. The first two are obvious to fit longitudinally, but if the cylinder head is completely different then why the same power rating?

Minty 03-09-2015 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by Chilicharger665 (Post 1213142)
I read the new Car and Driver with the ND on the cover. They claim the engine has a new exhaust, intake manifold, and cylinder head. The first two are obvious to fit longitudinally, but if the cylinder head is completely different then why the same power rating?

I believe that's talking about the 1.5 liter, which is the only version of the car that any press has gotten to drive IIRC. That engine got a power increase over the standard one, the 2.0 did not.

Sparetire 03-12-2015 11:02 AM

Looking at the trend of decent displacement and tons of compression yet weaknut specific output from many small engines, I really do wonder if the NE (if it ever comes about) will be electric. Seriously. How's that for m.net-like?

If you looked at the spec sheet on most modern engines, the displacement, the compression, the management, etc. You would expect 50-100 more HP from the 4 cylinders. But for emissions sake they must run baby cams high velocity/low flow ports. Great TQ bands, but not as much screaming top end as you would think based on the compression and all.

Then we have 2 ton Teslas that handily rip most gas powered cars apart and are only going to enjoy greater economies of scale over time.

Dunning Kruger Affect 03-12-2015 12:42 PM

I've mentioned it before, but it's about the economies of the auto manufacturers. Honda has the technology and background to make screamer engines that have the highest mean piston speed in a production car that revs up to 9k because they have a lot of background in motorcycles, used to have (and currently does) an F1 division, and is the 2nd largest Japanese auto manufacturer.

There are only a few Japanese car companies smaller than Mazda, and outside of their science fair experiment (rotary), none of their engines have a particularly high displacement:power ratio. Their technology package is basically high compression and leveraging the Atkinson cycle. I'd like more horsepower, but 155hp at 2300ish-lbs is going to be a blast, doubly so if it gets killer gas mileage.

It's too bad that the colors are 3 whites, a silver, a black, a red, and a blue.

turbofan 03-12-2015 03:36 PM

At least they HAVE a blue, unlike the current Miata for at least 2014 and 2015, and I believe 2013 as well.

shuiend 03-12-2015 03:42 PM

I won't be buying the first year ND, but come second year I will probably be buying one new. MKTurbo has to be the first to the market with them.

albumleaf 03-12-2015 09:28 PM

where are the chrome options

shuiend 03-13-2015 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 1214415)
where are the chrome options

I think you are a bit off topic, but here are the Chrome options.

Leafy 03-13-2015 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 1214415)
where are the chrome options

I'm sure they'll be a selection of autozone grade chrome addons which you can get dealer installed since those bits are a favorite with the target demographic of this car, the elderly couple that wants to coast into death. That goes double for luggage racks.


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