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Old 01-20-2013, 02:38 PM   #761
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I have the diff out right now because im rebuilding the rear end, so that should give me some more movement. I got a nice set of pry bars for christmas so i should be set in that department. I kinda know its not gonna be an easy job, doing mounts without removing the engine. But i should be able to get a jack and some prying to lift the motor enough to slide them in and out, at least these will come apart. I might have a go at the install tonight
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:07 PM   #762
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I ended up putting the bolts on the block last, just one of the ways to do it.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:53 PM   #763
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all done, really wasnt that bad to do, took 1.5 hrs, and i had to tighten up bolts on my creeper and find/make shorter bolts for the mounts
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:44 PM   #764
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Havent updated this thread in a while

got some cleaning up of the engine bay done, painting and maintenance done. new timing belt and pulleys and aluminum alternator and waterpump pulleys.

3.636 ring and pinion is on its way as well as a 7-8" micrometer so i can get working on the rear end. i have a welded diff thats going in. Hopefully i will have it all buttoned up so i can get to some events in May.

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Old 03-19-2013, 10:38 PM   #765
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If you had a larger version of that pic I'd use it as my wallpaper.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:04 PM   #766
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Good Lord! You're running all that power through a welded diff?
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:18 PM   #767
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Good Lord! You're running all that power through a welded diff?
Pretty hard to break a welded diff if done properly. Gears and axles are the weaker link.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:25 PM   #768
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Oh I was referring to how that would affect the handling.
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:20 AM   #769
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the majority of formula d cars are running spools or welded diff. I looked into having a custom spool made, it was gonna be around 800-1000. I wasnt going to swing that so i said screw it and had my friend who is a certified welder do it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:20 AM   #770
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I'm sure its great for drifting once you get used to it, but that would be funny to see someone who doesn't know it's welded try to drive it. (P.S. I still fap to your IC setup daily)
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:17 PM   #771
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One my favorite build threads on this forum.
Pretty much how I would set it up.

Still looking for a cheap miata though.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:21 PM   #772
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REAR END IS DONE !!

all the parts laid out

OEM bearings and seals
3.636 Ring and pinion
Weir Performance solid pinion bearing spacer kit



This is the Weir spacer kit


Comparison of the OEM vs Weir



I set up my dial indicator to configure the shims, I stated with the whole stack that came with the kit, .067" total, i reduced the shims until i got zero pinion movement on the indicator. Than i removed .002 at a time untill i got the desired bearing preload via rotational torque. I ended up with a .012 shim when done.


A beam type torque wrench is used to read the torque as the pinion is turned.

i set it at 12 in-lbs, this is on the high side of OEM spec


All together


I dont have any pics of checking the backlash and setting differential bearing preload. But the backlash is set between .002-.004, The oem spec calls for .0036-.0043. Checking my backlash in 4 places the backlash varied by about .002, I decided to keep it set on the tight side rather than loosen it up, Loose backlash breaks gears.

The preload was set using a 7-8" micrometer on the measuring pads, that was set to the tighter side of oem as well. The idea is to keep everything tight and have it loosen up to the middle of the spec as the bearings and gears break it. I want it to stay solid when i put the load to it .

Now i had to check the contact pattern to make sure the pinion depth was set correct. I just reused the shim that was on my old gear set as a starting point. I happened to be perfect so that made this alot easier


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Coast side

ALL DONE

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all thats left is axles, finish gutting my doors and re-bleed brakes and top off fluids. then back to dyno for more power. i wanna break 460whp and get more tq and response
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cool dude! Want to see dyno post. I'm curious to what I'll end up making, when I'm done.

Also, i feel like this car has been "done" forever and hasn't seen enough track time!
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Hey what are those motor mounts like? Do they have any give in them? Seems like our options are mazda comps or derlin, which are essentially solid.

Great work on the diff, you really went all out. Do you have one piece axles?

Edit: nvm, I see you have 2 piece axles. Did you axles clip in? The metal dust boots on my stub axles interfered with the metal dust boots Mazda moved to the seals for the 1 piece axles.

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The seals i got were replacements for the ones that were in there, so every thing went together fine.

My goal, which does seem attainable, is to get this car buttoned back up by the end of the month. I want to hit some events this year and there are quite a few coming up in the north east. I have a garage full of tires to burn
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Hey what are those motor mounts like? Do they have any give in them? Seems like our options are mazda comps or derlin, which are essentially solid.

Great work on the diff, you really went all out. Do you have one piece axles?

Edit: nvm, I see you have 2 piece axles. Did you axles clip in? The metal dust boots on my stub axles interfered with the metal dust boots Mazda moved to the seals for the 1 piece axles.
Those are the AWR mounts, I have them in the 70 duro variety. Dont seem too bad at all, engine doesnt seem to move at all, WAY less vibes in the cabin than the miata with delrin mounts I've driven.
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Yeah mine are the 90 durometer lol
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is that diff welded?
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Yeah mine are the 90 durometer lol
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