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Old 11-15-2007, 02:25 PM   #1
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http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/product...rmance/afx.asp

Anyone here using this or have any experience with it. I might be able to get one for under $100. I just need to know if its worth it.

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if you can really get it for that price....
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NGKs use their own sensor, some people don't like them. That's all i know.
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i heard the AFX still uses a Bosch WBo2....:gay:
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I know splitime is using it. PM him about it.
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So considering you can get an LC-1 for $199. What would be the max you would pay for this?
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I wouldn't buy it because it its scale ends at 16:1, which is where I tune cruise. Also, it doesn't look like it offers datalogging. Looks like it was designed for old fogies to help tune carbs, and seems to be marketed as such.
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I'm using one and so far its nice.

They come with the 5wire NGK sensor from factory. But can use the Bosch sensor also (nice because bosch are alot cheaper).

The 16:1 is kinda a wierd upper limit... but honestly... no reason to be running leaner. You'll see it at 16:1 and feel that the car is running lean... so its not a problem really.

I have mine going into my MS and it seems to be dead nuts on, I'd have to find the formula I used if you wanna use it with the MS. Found that info on pgmfi, took some rooting around though.

It's a nice package, great wire harness.

Keep it accessible though, the calibration **** is on the back. No clue how often thats needed, haven't run mine long enough yet.

Its quite fast, nice screen, small box, great loom and quite nicely priced.

I'm happy with mine. I actually recently traded my LM-1 from my civic for another, since I don't tune other peoples cars anymore... its much simpler to have a dedicated smaller display unit.
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I wouldn't buy it because it its scale ends at 16:1, which is where I tune cruise. Also, it doesn't look like it offers datalogging. Looks like it was designed for old fogies to help tune carbs, and seems to be marketed as such.
I touch on the 16:1 in my post, but it really isn't that big of a deal. It was my biggest turn off too at first.

The datalogging part.... how many wb02s do you find in the market that sell for like 250ish new on ebay and have datalogging?...
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Sweet, thanx very much.
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NGKs use their own sensor, some people don't like them. That's all i know.
Yes and no. The dislike would only stem from the cost of them... last i checked about 3x a bosch sensor.

Then again... some people swear that the NTK is a much more durable and longer lasting sensor. I've gotten short and long life from Bosch sensors... and this is my first NTK... so I can't speak from experience here.
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The datalogging part.... how many wb02s do you find in the market that sell for like 250ish new on ebay and have datalogging?...
all of them?
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If you are looking for a cheap wideband controller with onboard logging and dual outputs. Get the JAW from 14point7.com. I used it for 3k miles, and its currently on a friends car, as I don't need it until the spring, he has put a few k miles himself on the unit with no issues.

Excellent customer support as well.

JAW FTW!
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