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ViRuS2k 11-28-2009 06:29 PM

mhm, travis told something from a mounting plate in carbon or aluminium?

Laur3ns 11-28-2009 06:34 PM

Wow, nice! Too bad wires sticking out of the resin, as long as the electrical components are covered it should be pretty bullet proof.

TravisR: why not post a list of the todo's by name and work down that order, so we at least know where we're at. I'm getting frustrated...!@

evank 11-28-2009 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by ViRuS2k (Post 488003)
mhm, travis told something from a mounting plate in carbon or aluminium?

I don't know anything about a mounting plate. Maybe that is something for the older cars? (Mine's a 2004.) Or maybe the "mounting plate" is considered the same thing as the Y-adapter, which does contain two mounting holes.

ViRuS2k 11-28-2009 06:53 PM

@evank

Originally Posted by TravisR (Post 443622)
The brackets didn't fit as we intended, so the units went out without a mounting bracket for the ignition box. The up side, because you guys have had to wait, you get the choice between carbon or aluminum mounting plates. Let me know what you want. The mount is not required for function. The box's are tanks, so on that end your set to plug it in and run. The mounting plate is just a goody to make it look nicer basically.

There will also be a full carbon cover that goes over the weapon-x units if you'd like to purchase that seperately. I just have to finish it. It was never intended to be included in the kits. Eat your clubroadster heart out.

Let me know if there are any questions.

post vom 8/17/2009

mounting plate or not, the case looks like swiss cheese and not fit for a operation place like the engine bay (e.g. waterproof,...)

evank 11-28-2009 07:08 PM

Oh. I haven't got that, and I don't expect to need it. Can always bend some metal into a makeshift bracket if necessary.

thymer 11-28-2009 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by evank (Post 487996)

That's not cool at all. I'm concerned that this would be shipped as a finished product. WTF?

evank 11-28-2009 08:13 PM

The other side is VERY nice and professional-looking.

On one hand, I don't give a crap how the parts look -- as long as they work. On the other hand, I'd probably return the adapter box and demand a "finished" one if I wasn't in a massive hurry to have a bigger spark. However my decision is to key what I've got because I desperately need it (and because I don't want to wait another eternity for the replacement.)

thymer 11-28-2009 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by evank (Post 488034)
The other side is VERY nice and professional-looking.

On one hand, I don't give a crap how the parts look -- as long as they work. On the other hand, I'd probably return the adapter box and demand a "finished" one if I wasn't in a massive hurry to have a bigger spark. However my decision is to key what I've got because I desperately need it (and because I don't want to wait another eternity for the replacement.)

I hear you, I'd do the same. Please do report back after you install.

TravisR 11-28-2009 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 488018)
That's not cool at all. I'm concerned that this would be shipped as a finished product. WTF?

Your never going to see it, and I since switched the production technique to where everything is buried. Remember guys, we're trying to get them out, and money isn't exactly flowing from fountains on these. The coils are 66 a piece (my price is slightly lower but not much) which basically means I have 175 dollars to build a well in excess of 200 piece assembly (electroncis, wiring harness, and housing) and make profit. Now if you want to pay about 800 I'm sure we can come out with gold on each one. These units are the same price as the stock coil packs and we are simultaneously replacing the spark plug wires with the best system in the world, no spark plug wires. So basically your getting a 500+ dollar (stock ignition system including plug wires) that outperforms it in every way for low 400 dollars.

There is absolutely no way that stuff is going to be damaged once its in that gook anyways.

evank 11-28-2009 08:30 PM

Hi Travis. Make no mistake: I'm a very happy camper tonight. I forgive your delays, and I hope you forgive my harassment ("Are they here yet? How 'bout now? No? What about now? WAAAAH!! Oh, here they are.") :bigtu:

evank 11-28-2009 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by thymer (Post 488038)
Please do report back after you install.

Of course.

allanhelen 11-29-2009 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by ViRuS2k (Post 487960)
Travis, is it possible for your european customers, that they get the COPīs before christmas?

Good question, I'd quite like to know this too

TravisR 11-29-2009 10:38 AM

I won't let it go on past december 31st. There is no way I'm starting my businesses new year with this cloud hanging over it.

evank 11-29-2009 04:47 PM

There's going to be a delay of a couple days before I can post an update. Sorry.

Laur3ns 11-29-2009 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by TravisR (Post 488174)
I won't let it go on past december 23rd. There is no way I'm having this cloud hanging over christmas.

There, fixed for ya :)

boileralum 11-30-2009 03:37 PM

Travis, if you need some help assembling stuff, packing boxes, whatever, I am available after 12/9 (last final).

thymer 12-04-2009 02:31 PM

I'm out, thanks for the refund Travis.

tann3r 12-07-2009 01:47 PM

Monday update?

evank 12-07-2009 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by evank (Post 488298)
There's going to be a delay of a couple days before I can post an update. Sorry.

My car is having some unrelated problem which I have to fix before dealing with COPS. I hope to have it fixed by middle of this week.

TravisR 12-07-2009 06:50 PM

Hey Guys,

Current plans are being held up because of the rear female and male connector on the harness. I have 4-5 more I can do but once again conditions on the ground have changed as my supplier backed out on continueing to supply the connectors we need. [mod note: request for nasty emails removed]

When the shipment from china comes in I'll be sure to get everything together quickly. If you have been waiting for a while as one of the first ins I'll be getting those out soon. I shipped a bunch today. Going to do more tomorrow. I'll also post more pictures and show you exactly whats holding us up.

My current plan is that if this doesn't get out of my door and up I'll just take out a loan to pay back any excess COP purchasers. That away I can continue making whoever wants to stick around without delay because of money issues. People have wanted refunds and rightfully so but it really hurts the process when the funds aren't available to purchase something I need which further tangles things up.

I have also thought about doing the Toyota COP kit for early model cars and cars with stock computers and then doing the WeaponX kits for standalones only as the circuitry costs are very high to produce the Tach signals, and for it to not throw any codes. Despite what the price appears to be if I assemble these things at 7.25 an hour The total cost with materials comes out to be something around 433 dollars a piece.

I don't mind going open book with you guys so here it is:

My pricing breakdown is the following:
Coils 54*4(Retail is 67 a piece)= 216
Custom housing 15
Coil connectors 3.53*4=14.12
Base connector male/female 6.29*2=12.58
Pins: .15*28=4.2
Resistors, capacitors, IGBT's, IC's and inductors: 30
Circuit boards=15
Tape, corrugated, shrink wrap, solder, potting epoxy, wires: 2-3 dollars Cost of
materials 335.9

Labor 12 hours at minimum wage: 7.25
Shipping ~12
Total ideal cost 434.9


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