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It'll take 3 years before it gets to court. By then, the M3 will be old news.
I agree that some things are worth it. This is not one of those things.
I've had one of these civil matters before. The lawyer got nearly half. Gained a little satisfaction, and a lot of stress. Wasn't worth it in the end.
I agree that some things are worth it. This is not one of those things.
I've had one of these civil matters before. The lawyer got nearly half. Gained a little satisfaction, and a lot of stress. Wasn't worth it in the end.
#23
It'll take 3 years before it gets to court. By then, the M3 will be old news.
I agree that some things are worth it. This is not one of those things.
I've had one of these civil matters before. The lawyer got nearly half. Gained a little satisfaction, and a lot of stress. Wasn't worth it in the end.
I agree that some things are worth it. This is not one of those things.
I've had one of these civil matters before. The lawyer got nearly half. Gained a little satisfaction, and a lot of stress. Wasn't worth it in the end.
Good for him for doing what's right
doucher comment.
#26
this whole thing is more for publicity, if i really wanted an M3 and could barely afford it, ie. get a loan, then i would go after them as well, especially if the lawyer was free...the dealer will hold you to your commitment, why not do the same to them if you have the means and time...
i would have probalby just said "**** you" and walked away when they state that this was a mistake auction...i dont have the time nor means, props to this guy, like rick said, 99% would not so what he is doing, and he is right in doing so...
i would have probalby just said "**** you" and walked away when they state that this was a mistake auction...i dont have the time nor means, props to this guy, like rick said, 99% would not so what he is doing, and he is right in doing so...
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Two wrongs don't make a right, and being a whiney twit about it doesn't make your case any more correct. His self-righteous indignation is all too prevalent among the entitlement crowd.
Screwing "the man" just means the costs get passed on to everyone. So, now that place is gonna soak a few more people on service calls to make up for their costs. So, he got a fancy new overpriced car to complement his inflated ego and offset his small dick. Goody for him.
#28
It's not like they made an obvious mistake in listing the car. They didn't make a mistake advertise it for $6000, but the MSRP of $60K. The dealer should be held to it, it isn't like they have paid BMW $90,000 for the car and are losing $30,000.
rleete, you seem to know a lot about the guys genitals. Friend of yours? How the **** is it wrong that he is holding the dealer to their word? Try to get out of a lease with the same dealer and see how willing they are to help you when you make a mistake.
Shouldn't matter if this was a Miata, a BMW or a Ferrari. It is the principal. I can't beliive anyone would stand up for a BMW dealer.
I'm surprised BMW corporate hasn't stepped in on this. This is bad publicity for them, but most people won't have any sympathy for a guy buying a $60,000 car.
rleete, you seem to know a lot about the guys genitals. Friend of yours? How the **** is it wrong that he is holding the dealer to their word? Try to get out of a lease with the same dealer and see how willing they are to help you when you make a mistake.
Shouldn't matter if this was a Miata, a BMW or a Ferrari. It is the principal. I can't beliive anyone would stand up for a BMW dealer.
I'm surprised BMW corporate hasn't stepped in on this. This is bad publicity for them, but most people won't have any sympathy for a guy buying a $60,000 car.
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I'm not standing up for the dealership, who I think are being *********, too.
But I'm not sympathyzing with a guy that can drop 60 grand on a car over the ******* internet like most of us would for say, a shift ****.
But I'm not sympathyzing with a guy that can drop 60 grand on a car over the ******* internet like most of us would for say, a shift ****.
#31
Why wouldn't he whine, it was a contract. You go into one with the expectation that all parties are agreeing to the terms listed, not just add things as they go.
Had he walked away from the deal and they had full intention to sell the car, they would have been pissed too, maybe they would have chased him.
He's the consumer and he has a right to be upset. He accepted their terms and they modified it.
Naturally it's pay or walk, no one is debating that you don't have to shell out the money or some at least to walk away with a car, but again, breaching a binding contract is still hella lame, and illegal.
The game isn't that the consumer gets screwed, at least that is a game that doesn’t interest me to play. You may accept that fact that when you go buy a car and they jack the price by 10k you are willing to pay it or go home with your tail tucked between your legs, but some people wouldn't, he didn't.
You are right, maybe the auction should have been a lot more thorough and it would have made these problems not exist, but the issue is, it didn't say that.
He's entitled. He won the auction, entered into a contract and the other party is failing to stand by it, he has every right to whine, cry or throw a tantrum regardless if it was a new miata or a new bmw.
A deal is a deal.
Crazy assumptions but that may be the case. I suggest people don't go there, what are the odds they are going to honor their warranty on work?
It can be flipped the other way as well. They see that they can pull these scams on people and since no one does anything, they continue to do it to everyone everywhere gets screwed anyways, what's the problem with keeping them honest?
He’s doing a service for his BMW community.
Should we protect industry members or shops that do that here to members ?
What to say, jealousy kills.
can i get a w00 w00
Had he walked away from the deal and they had full intention to sell the car, they would have been pissed too, maybe they would have chased him.
He's the consumer and he has a right to be upset. He accepted their terms and they modified it.
Not that the dealer isn't at fault, too. But that's the game if you want the latest "fashion" in cars. Look at the thread on the markup of Mustangs. Maybe not "right", but you pay or walk, simple as that. Maybe the auction should have said "license and dealer fees extra", and they could have tacked on the huge markup.
The game isn't that the consumer gets screwed, at least that is a game that doesn’t interest me to play. You may accept that fact that when you go buy a car and they jack the price by 10k you are willing to pay it or go home with your tail tucked between your legs, but some people wouldn't, he didn't.
You are right, maybe the auction should have been a lot more thorough and it would have made these problems not exist, but the issue is, it didn't say that.
A deal is a deal.
It can be flipped the other way as well. They see that they can pull these scams on people and since no one does anything, they continue to do it to everyone everywhere gets screwed anyways, what's the problem with keeping them honest?
He’s doing a service for his BMW community.
Should we protect industry members or shops that do that here to members ?
can i get a w00 w00
#35
the dealership employee who put the car up on ebay should have known that there was some risk of a low winning bid, they should have taken mesures to mitigate this risk, ebay makes this very easy, but they chose not to.
my view is the auction was legitimate and the sale should be made with no more conditions then the ones listed on the original auction listing as long as he can make what ever payment arrangements were listed as acceptable the car should be his.
if i win an auction i feel entitled to the listing and accountable for the terms of my bid.
yes, good for him for getting a screaming deal!
my view is the auction was legitimate and the sale should be made with no more conditions then the ones listed on the original auction listing as long as he can make what ever payment arrangements were listed as acceptable the car should be his.
if i win an auction i feel entitled to the listing and accountable for the terms of my bid.
yes, good for him for getting a screaming deal!
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