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Old 10-31-2022, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by triple88a
He didnt even go on wastes of making hydrogen. Electrolysis process is very inefficient and requires a ton of electricity to make a very tiny amount of hydrogen. From what i've seen about 180kWh of electricity for 1 gallon of hydrogen by weight
Then you have to compress it to absurd pressures or liquify it, both just as energy intensive as the production.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Then you have to compress it to absurd pressures or liquify it, both just as energy intensive as the production.
Hydrogen enters the realm of feasibility when its production is tied to nuclear power, both electrolytically for current gen reactors and thermochemically for next gen high temperature reactors, but the US prefers anti-nuclear scare tactics and TV dramas over facts and real world solutions.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:20 AM
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Hydrogen enters the realm of feasibility when its production is tied to nuclear power, both electrolytically for current gen reactors and thermochemically for next gen high temperature reactors, but the US prefers anti-nuclear scare tactics and TV dramas over facts and real world solutions.
Yes, but you could also just make synthetic liquid fuels and use all our existing infrastructure to handle, store, and use the energy.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Yes, but you could also just make synthetic liquid fuels and use all our existing infrastructure to handle, store, and use the energy.
Or... and bear with me here, because this gets complicated: we could *not* do that thing, and instead throw hundreds of billions of dollars into research on subjects which is trendy and scores political points among people who don't understand physics, chemistry or math.


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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Or... and bear with me here, because this gets complicated: we could *not* do that thing, and instead throw hundreds of billions of dollars into research on subjects which is trendy and scores political points among people who don't understand physics, chemistry or math.


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I recall seeing a clip about 20 years ago from a Toyota engineer on TV for car and driver or something when they were testing a prototype Highlander fuel cell vehicle. This guy was the lead on the project and absolutely destroyed the Toyoda. When asked how long it will take to get this tech on the road he said 'it will never work at scale' They kept asking him questions and he just **** allllll over his own project. Then, like any good interviewer would do, they asked why he was telling them all this, and was he not afraid he would get in trouble with the boses? Dude said something to the effect of nope, I put in for retirement last month, this is my last project and next week I'm done at Toyoda. The world needs to know this is a terrible technology that will go nowhere; its simply not practical. legend.





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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Dude said something to the effect of nope, I put in for retirement last month, this is my last project and next week I'm done at Toyoda. The world needs to know this is a terrible technology that will go nowhere; its simply not practical. legend.
Suppose I told you I was working on a technology which enabled us to extract ancient fossilized algae from deep beneath the ocean, transport it halfway around the world, run it through an energy-intensive process to separate it into a variety of highly volatile and toxic liquids, and use some of them to create forks which can be used once and then tossed into a landfill, in order to save people from having to perform the manual labor of washing a fork after using it.

That would seem fairly impractical, were we not already conditioned to accept single-use plastic forks as ordinary.

In a hypothetical world in which the supply of ancient fossilized algae is either depleted, or in which demand for it exceeds supply by such a large margin that it is prohibitively expensive, then our perspective on what is and is not practical might be different.



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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Suppose I told you I was working on a technology which enabled us to extract ancient fossilized algae from deep beneath the ocean, transport it halfway around the world, run it through an energy-intensive process to separate it into a variety of highly volatile and toxic liquids, and use some of them to create forks which can be used once and then tossed into a landfill, in order to save people from having to perform the manual labor of washing a fork after using it.

That would seem fairly impractical, were we not already conditioned to accept single-use plastic forks as ordinary.

In a hypothetical world in which the supply of ancient fossilized algae is either depleted, or in which demand for it exceeds supply by such a large margin that it is prohibitively expensive, then our perspective on what is and is not practical might be different.



Sure, and I am all for throwing some money at scientists to develop future tech. Even stuff like H2 that is still too far off to be practical.

My big issue with H2 right now is there is no good way to produce it easily other than SMR's, and that makes just as much carbon as buring the methane directly. And storage is a royal bitch. Well to wheels its more because of the extra equipment involved.


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