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Old May 28, 2017 | 05:06 PM
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May I join the ubaru cleb now?


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Old May 28, 2017 | 05:54 PM
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SCION?!!!!!

Get that blasphemy out of here, this is for real subarus!!!!!!11111


Old May 28, 2017 | 07:14 PM
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Blow a head gasket, they'll let you in out of commiseration.
Old May 29, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
SCION?!!!!!

Get that blasphemy out of here, this is for real subarus!!!!!!11111


frzz looks so much better than brzzz tho.

Love the front end and boomerang spoiler

Needs the darkest tint possible on it for this texas weather tho
Old May 29, 2017 | 09:06 PM
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I owned a brand-new BRZ for 6 weeks back in 2015. My test drive consisted of nothing but on-ramps and highway pulls with the most co-operative salesman ever and it was great fun! Too bad I found out it sucks *** around town once I got it back home. That torque dip is horrendous.

I still want to test drive an FRZ with the Jackson Racing rotrex kit and see if that fixes my complaints about it. That would make it a reliable and track-capable DD. That and the JR combo radiator/oil cooler. The FRS prices have been falling dramatically and I get on a research kick every few weeks about them, but then I think about everything else you need to add to them to make it track capable. Brakes, wheels/tires, some sort of harness bar/seats, etc etc...
Old May 30, 2017 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
That torque dip is horrendous.
I'd be lying if I said the mod bug hasn't taken hold already...

Apparently a quality header + tune removes the torque dip by a great margin. I'm pretty happy with my purchase of my frs. Drives like new, smells like new.

At this rate, thoughts of selling the MSM come to mind often during the day lol.
Old May 31, 2017 | 08:46 AM
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Yep, I told you. The OFT header + OFT + E85 = 30whp and no more torque dip.

I'm starting to contemplate keeping mine (something a bit more financially intelligent regarding cars for once) and adding a header, swapping the coilovers for something more street oriented since I'm not going to track the car ever, and get my 18x9.5 RPF1s refinished and get fresh tires on them.

The car looks goofy as hell on the stock 17x7 wheels with 215/45 vs the big wheels with 255/35 that have been on it the last 2+ years.
Old May 31, 2017 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Yep, I told you. The OFT header + OFT + E85 = 30whp and no more torque dip.

I'm starting to contemplate keeping mine (something a bit more financially intelligent regarding cars for once) and adding a header, swapping the coilovers for something more street oriented since I'm not going to track the car ever, and get my 18x9.5 RPF1s refinished and get fresh tires on them.

The car looks goofy as hell on the stock 17x7 wheels with 215/45 vs the big wheels with 255/35 that have been on it the last 2+ years.
That OFT header looks interesting, is it unequal length? Looks like it. Also, that 2nd O2 is neat, looks like they welded in a spacer for it.

I hear you on the suspension & wheels. At this point I just want some springs and 6ULs
Old May 31, 2017 | 11:34 AM
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It is, so you get the old STi rumble. And there really isn't a big difference in top end power vs a longtube Equal-length header.

I wouldn't bother with just springs and stock dampers (although the RCE springs on stock dampers are well regarded). If it were me I'd just do some street-oriented coilovers like the entry Bilsteins or Tein's or something. If you go too low, you will need adjustable camber arms in the back to dial out some of the camber gained.

These cars stock can fit huge meats on stock fenders. Like a small trim on a rear bumper tab and you can run 265/35/18........unnecessary...........but damn do these cars look great lowered on tires as wide an Mustang/Camaro.
Old May 31, 2017 | 11:41 AM
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That "rumble" is the sound of lazy engineering and inefficiency
I'm surprised it doesn't seem to affect power negatively, but then this is a 200hp pea shooter, so I guess it doesn't need much in terms of flow.

I'd probably pick up a lightly used set of 17+ OEM strut takeoffs, since they're supposed to be much more comfortable, put some good looking light wheels on there, and call it a day.
The little buggers are sexy, they really don't need much to look good. Replacing the terrible looking stock wheels is 90% of the way there.
Old May 31, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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Yeah, in all the tunes the do vary the cam timing to account for the UEL, so I'm sure that helps minimize pumping losses.
Old May 31, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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Wouldn't equal length headers add more power, even if they get rid of the 'rumble'?
Old May 31, 2017 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
And there really isn't a big difference in top end power vs a longtube Equal-length header.
Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Wouldn't equal length headers add more power, even if they get rid of the 'rumble'?
And we are talking 3-5whp above 6k rpm. That's approaching statistical noise.

The only equal-length header that makes big gains over the others, is the ACE header. And it's $1600 for a 4 cylinder header. But the quality and testing is out of this world insane.
Old May 31, 2017 | 03:24 PM
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Anyone here interested in my RacerX FMIC for 05+ legacy's and outbacks?


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Old Jun 2, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Yesterday I watched a guy drive away in and load my mustang onto a transport truck heading to a dealership in SoCal. It looked so sexy and sounded so good. I was sad, I'm gonna miss that sexy beast.

I sincerely hope whoever buys it takes as good care of it as I did. It is virtually flawless inside and out. Sometimes I feel like keeping my cars so clean and well maintained is a waste, since I go through them so fast, and other people get to enjoy all my hard work.

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Old Jun 2, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
I wouldn't bother with just springs and stock dampers (although the RCE springs on stock dampers are well regarded). If it were me I'd just do some street-oriented coilovers like the entry Bilsteins or Tein's or something. If you go too low, you will need adjustable camber arms in the back to dial out some of the camber gained.
Tein Flex Z seem to be a really good budget-friendly street setup on these cars. They take advantage of non-rebuild-able design and favorable Yen : Dollar rates to come in at around $870 for a set. Includes camber plates.

Good write up here from Mike at Counter-Space Garage, who seems to be one of the few sources of quality information on the ft86 forum: Tein Flex Z opinion - Scion FR-S Forum Subaru BRZ Forum Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB



This is what I will most likely do, with a set of rear LCAs, but I worry about how these will hold up through salty winters - which makes me want to do a non-adjustable Bilstein B6/B8 with springs, camber bolts, and LCAs but this ends up just as expensive and with no adjust-ability.

OFT, Header, and Lightweight better looking wheels with decent tires seem like a better use of money. Been watching a used set of silver Advan RGs on Ebay... but the cheap options from Konig or a nice set of 6ULs/TSW/Storms/RFP1 would all look good. Decisions are hard.

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Old Jun 2, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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hahaha, yeah the twins have SO much aftermarket support and so many really cool parts that it'd be a real struggle trying to figure out what to get.
Old Jun 2, 2017 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
hahaha, yeah the twins have SO much aftermarket support and so many really cool parts that it'd be a real struggle trying to figure out what to get.
Tell me about it



Besides getting tint installed, I really dig these smoked sequential taillights.

vs OEM...

Old Jun 2, 2017 | 11:48 AM
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OEM taillights look great to me on those.
I'd probably black out the housings if I was bored.



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