Notices
Insert BS here A place to discuss anything you want

The Home Gourmet thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 15, 2017 | 01:51 PM
  #1201  
G3ML1NGZ's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 563
Total Cats: 107
Default

What I've noticed with a lot of people is that they truly do not realize how much they eat or how fast they fill up their daily quota while eating trash. And holy **** they don't realize how easy it is to drink calories.
Worst of all though is that people without thinking seem to assume that making a healthy choice equals negative calories. As in, "I made a good choice and now I can splurge", or adding a salad on the side of the meal will make it healthier. Not understanding nutritional values is the biggest factor and therefore many people simply do not know how much they're actually consuming.
Old Apr 17, 2017 | 11:13 AM
  #1202  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

Meanwhile Michelle Obama was trying to get people to not eat so much bullshit but the food companies said "whoa hold on there" and the farmers who grow corn that's made into high fructose corn syrup and other processed food chemicals said "let's not be hasty" and her "eat right" campaign becamse "let's move" instead. Because fewer industries tend to lose money when people get up and walk than when they don't consume crappy food.

In other news, Michelle did an ad for a film called "A Place at the Table" that's about hunger in the US... the film was produced by Tom Colicchio's wife. Their joint-effort organization (Food Policy Action) is doing a media campaign for the movie. That campaign is now being run by my wife.

I told her I'm going to need a comped meal at one of Tom's restaurants.
Old Apr 17, 2017 | 11:15 AM
  #1203  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

Old Apr 17, 2017 | 12:44 PM
  #1204  
z31maniac's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,693
Total Cats: 222
From: OKC, OK
Default

Homepage | VASTOKC

Where the lady and I went to dinner Saturday night. 49th floor of the Devon Energy Tower in downtown OKC. I forgot to take a pic of food, but we had the Charcuterie board as an app, I had the Lamb Ragu Pasta and she had the braised short ribs. Food and service were excellent.

I think with drinks and tip I ended up dropping $190 on dinner.

Last edited by z31maniac; Apr 17, 2017 at 02:15 PM.
Old Apr 18, 2017 | 03:18 PM
  #1205  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

<Joe's pics of disgusting junk food purchased by a shopper>

^ Docs and dietitians don't bat an eye if you say you eat the above.
And then if you say you don't eat grains and do intermittent fasting they scream "orthorexia!"

Now look at these photos of what a dietitian ate in a day. She actually didn't meet even the RDA of a couple of essential nutrients:
https://optimisingnutrition.com/2017...or-the-future/
Old Apr 18, 2017 | 03:42 PM
  #1206  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

RDA is an interesting benchmark to choose. Sure it's printed on labels like some sort of authoritary device, but then so is "100% all natural ingredients made with love"
Old Apr 19, 2017 | 12:16 PM
  #1207  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

RDA is used as a benchmark only because it's standardized. BTW there are some nutrients that evidence is now showing is way too low for *optimal* function, as opposed to "enough to prevent outright deficiency-caused disease". Vitamin D is an example. RDA of 400 IU prevents rickets. But that's suboptimal aka "leads to insufficiency". Hundreds more genes are expressed with higher daily doses. A lot of researchers now think the correct optimal daily dose is somewhere between 2,000 and 5,000 IU. Genes expressed include those for immune system health, which help fight infections and prevent cancer.

As an aside, look at what foods have the highest essential nutrient scores per calorie:

https://foodfoundation.guru/blog/201...nutrient-dense

Note these are ranked according to essential nutrients; it doesn't account for the very positive effects of antioxidants (e.g. polyphenols in vegetables and berries) because there is no standardized RDA for them.
Note also that "healthy" grains are waaaaaaay down. They don't have much *soluble* fiber (their *insoluble* fiber is far less beneficial), are nutrient-poor, contain anti-nutrients (block absorption of certain minerals), and are immunogenic (triggers autoimmunity) for a significant proportion of the population.
Old Apr 19, 2017 | 12:22 PM
  #1208  
rleete's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,793
Total Cats: 1,341
From: Rochester, NY
Default

Interesting about the vitamin D. Since my bout with kidney stones almost a decade ago, my Dr. prescribed 2000 IU daily of vitamin D, with a maximum of 5000 IU. My over all health improved pretty dramatically at 2000, and I now regularly take 3000 IU. No stones since then.
Old Apr 19, 2017 | 12:22 PM
  #1209  
JasonC SBB's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,420
Total Cats: 84
Default

And look at what 20-somethings eat:



Only 2 items have significant nutrients.
(Oh and potatoes too, but they're fried in obesogenic, atherogenic, carcinogenic oxidized-PUFA "vegetable" oil)
Old Apr 19, 2017 | 12:25 PM
  #1210  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Mmmmm. Pizza and beer.

I eat a lot of taco bell. Gotta get those beans in.
Old Apr 19, 2017 | 01:53 PM
  #1211  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

I am also skeptical of the RDA for Sodium.

Maybe i replace it with MSG.
Old Apr 21, 2017 | 09:47 AM
  #1212  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,381
Total Cats: 7,504
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
^ Docs and dietitians don't bat an eye if you say you eat the above.
And then if you say you don't eat grains and do intermittent fasting they scream "orthorexia!"

Now look at these photos of what a dietitian ate in a day. She actually didn't meet even the RDA of a couple of essential nutrients:
https://optimisingnutrition.com/2017...or-the-future/

Funny stuff...


Sometimes, I make bad decisions.



This was a week ago:




That was a huge deal for me. I started this quest a year and a half ago tipping the scale at well over 220 lbs and 20% BF. At 6'2", that put me right at the scary edge of the "obese" range of a standard BMI chart. Yes, I realize that the BMI chart is a flawed instrument, but it's really the only universal standard we have.

For months, I've been telling myself that when I hit 17x, I was going to reward myself with a whole frozen pizza, just like the guy I was mocking earlier (California Pizza Kitchen's BBQ chicken, my old weakness.) After having hit that milestone, I found that I don't even want it. Not as in "I don't want it, because it will sabotage my goals," but as it "This literally does not even appeal to me any more." I'm finally inside the "normal / healthy" range of said aforementioned debunked-but-useful charts.


Then, over the past week, I've found myself being taken out to lunch by three different salespeople, and also exposed to large piles of pizza and doughnuts in the studio, provided by my GM, since we've all been working our asses off non-stop to get this set built. And yes, I indulged.

This morning, 182.


Determination... Willpower...
Old Apr 21, 2017 | 10:23 AM
  #1213  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

For Joe:


Skip to the 2:00 mark and watch til the end.





ugh it cuts off too soon.

SPOILER below:
























at the end he tosses it over his shoulder and says he's not hungry.
Old Apr 21, 2017 | 04:14 PM
  #1214  
mgeoffriau's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,388
Total Cats: 474
From: Jackson, MS
Default

Today's lunch was not exactly fine dining, but let me tell you, it was some fine dining.


Old Apr 23, 2017 | 05:07 AM
  #1215  
gesso's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 820
Total Cats: 276
From: Bay Area, CA
Default



Most of that is American Waygu from Idaho, but the two bits on the far edge of the plate are Miazaki prefecture waygu. They were worth every bit of the stupidly large amount of money they cost. I've literally* never had a better meal than the ~10 bites of that cow. I want to go to Japan now...

*Yes literally.
Old Apr 24, 2017 | 10:15 AM
  #1216  
turbofan's Avatar
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,146
Total Cats: 1,087
From: Lake Forest, CA
Default

Looks phenomental

This is considerably lower-end, but also considerably cheaper haha. I've really been enjoying Costco's pre-seasoned tri-tip. Yeah yeah I know, it's lazy to buy meat that's already done up, but it's so easy, tasty, and $6.50/lb.

Took a couple bites before realizing I should document this...

__________________
Ed@949Racing/Supermiata
www.949racing.com
Old Apr 24, 2017 | 11:24 PM
  #1217  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,381
Total Cats: 7,504
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

^ That looks quite good, actually. I don't do beef often, but tri-tip is right up there with filet mignon in my book.


I'm itching to try something new. Been doing a hell of a lot of fish dishes, some pork, all delicious. Got a hankering for savory at the moment.

Been reading up for the past day on how to make Gorgonzola sauces. Opinions vary as to buttermilk vs. heavy cream vs. milk, to use wine or not, nutmeg, butter, flour / cornstarch, etc... Some even call for chicken broth or vegetable stock.
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 09:09 AM
  #1218  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,381
Total Cats: 7,504
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Apart from pizza sauces, I've never really done a savory sauce completely from scratch. Made quite a few sweet & spicy Hawaiian / Korean / Japanese / Chinese -style glazes for stir fry and slow-cooker pork, but wanted to try something that Julia Child might have approved of. Decided on a Gorgonzola cream sauce last night. (Yes, I know, Gorgonzola is Italian, not French. Hey, at least I'm on the right continent.)

Delicious.

Start with 1.5 cups chardonnay, 1.5 cups buttermilk (I use powdered buttermilk, but have been unable to find powdered chardonnay.) Add 2 tsp corn starch, and simmer on medium heat until reduced by about 50%. At the same time, pan fry 6oz finely-cubed pancetta in olive oil over medium heat until slightly crisp (6-8 minutes). You could also use bacon, but I had pancetta in the fridge already. Add the pancetta to the sauce, along with about 4oz crumbly Gorgonzola and a few tbs of grated romano. Add a few pinches of nutmeg, and a healthy shot of fresh-ground black pepper. Turn to low and simmer while stirring until fully melted. The mixture should be fairly thick by this point.




I'd previously boiled about 20 oz of frozen cauliflower florets for ~15 min in lightly salted water, then drained well. Put this into a cake pan, top with the sauce and mix to distribute, then top with a bit more romano and some panko. Bake at 425° for about 25 minutes, until the top is nicely browned.




Awesomesauce.

Last edited by Joe Perez; Apr 30, 2017 at 10:00 AM. Reason: tsp, not tbs.
Old May 1, 2017 | 09:03 AM
  #1219  
y8s's Avatar
y8s
DEI liberal femininity
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 574
From: Fake Virginia
Default

If you do a bechamel method, you probably wouldn't need corn starch. There's even a cheater microwave way to do it, if you don't mind losing flavor (oh, but you probably do).

bechamel is the base for the mornay sauce which is often used for mac + cheese. just swap in your favorite moldy, tangy cheese and bam, flash flood in flavor town.
Old May 1, 2017 | 12:46 PM
  #1220  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,381
Total Cats: 7,504
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

Originally Posted by y8s
If you do a bechamel method, you probably wouldn't need corn starch.
Béchamel uses flour and butter instead of cornstarch and wine. Any reason why this would be preferable? Both are similar in caloric content, carbohydrate content, etc.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:49 AM.