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Old 11-08-2009, 11:57 PM   #41
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few million dollar lol sure not gonna happen like i said just leave me where i am. Julio on the other hand that drops a brick on his foot will be happy to go to the ER. I have auto insurance as i am required to via state law and i pay 2-3 times what the price should be of it becouse it is mandatory. Mandatory insurance helps no one, esp in car insurance becouse at the end of the day there are still people i know who drive with no license insurance and expired plates from 2 states over, and they are still driving around dispite having been pulled over multiple times etc. Make no mistake mysdnor if i have a wreck im either gonna walk away or nvr leave the site. So you wanna play chicken? winner gets to decide on mandating what people should pay for.
You could run up that before you even become conscious and tell them to let you die, which I think you are full of **** on the, "oh well, I don't have insurance so don't threat me bullshit"
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hey magna, you could get a medic alert bracelet that says "DNR" on it and tatoo DNR on your chest too... maybe then they would not take you to the hospital?
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If anyone can point me to ONE govenment public program that is well run and in the black, I'll consider their arguement that this isn't a failed abortion of another public program.

I'll wait...
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For the OP, have you read the bill? Probably not...and, if you decided you don't want to have any insurance but have to go to the hospital, guess who pays you tab? ...me
No I haven't and no one has. And how is it that you are covering my bill? I will be paying off my ER trip for the next few years. Maybe I am ignorant to how that works...
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In the US we are taken care of on a minimal level if we have no money, the government does not subsidize a high quality of life. If your old with no money, then you get the bottom of the barrel for care, and you will most likely struggle.
So let me get this straight...I'm serving in the US Army, I contribute 15% of every check to my TSP (thrift savings plan) it's kinda like a 401K. In addition to this I also have a high-ish yield savings account I put money in every month to save. I'm 21 years old. By the time I'm ready to retire I will have a nice chunk of change waiting for me. If I start paying extraa for the same health care I'm already getting then guess what's going to suffer, my savings.

Laquisha on the other hand...is 35 "supporting" 6 kids on welfare and has never held a job, and obviously isn't saving jack ****. undoubtedly she deserves the same quality of life when we're "old" as myself correct?

This is my problem with the nation going "socialist", Socialism IN THEORY is the perfect form of government, everyone does there part, everyone gets what they need BUT especially in this country not everyone will ever do their part, and those same people are the ones who will manipulate the system to get more than they need/deserve on top of it leaving me and people like myself to suffer the consequences/the bill.

As already stated, name 1 goverment agency that's run well/not manipulated/and in the black and I'll consider a national health care option. I see "social" medical care every day in the Army and can tell you it sucks *** and is extremely wasteful. I'm not allowed (in technicality) to buy motrin for a headache, I hve to go to sick call, what do I leave sick call with? A big *** brown paper sack full of all sorts of different drugs that the doctor thought was necessary..do I care? "No, I didn't pay for it" is the mentality of most.

It's early...none of that probably made sense so /rant.

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As already stated, name 1 goverment agency that's run well/not manipulated/and in the black and I'll consider a national health care option. I see "social" medical care every day in the Army and can tell you it sucks *** and is extremely wasteful. I'm not allowed (in technicality) to buy motrin for a headache, I hve to go to sick call, what do I leave sick call with? A big *** brown paper sack full of all sorts of different drugs that the doctor thought was necessary..do I care? "No, I didn't pay for it" is the mentality of most.
Ohhh! I know this one! Its a trick question isn't it? You can't name an agency because there isn't one. I win.
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So let me get this straight...I'm serving in the US Army, I contribute 15% of every check to my TSP (thrift savings plan) it's kinda like a 401K. In addition to this I also have a high-ish yield savings account I put money in every month to save. I'm 21 years old. By the time I'm ready to retire I will have a nice chunk of change waiting for me. If I start paying extraa for the same health care I'm already getting then guess what's going to suffer, my savings.

Laquisha on the other hand...is 35 "supporting" 6 kids on welfare and has never held a job, and obviously isn't saving jack ****. undoubtedly she deserves the same quality of life when we're "old" as myself correct?

This is my problem with the nation going "socialist", Socialism IN THEORY is the perfect form of government, everyone does there part, everyone gets what they need BUT especially in this country not everyone will ever do their part, and those same people are the ones who will manipulate the system to get more than they need/deserve on top of it leaving me and people like myself to suffer the consequences/the bill.

As already stated, name 1 goverment agency that's run well/not manipulated/and in the black and I'll consider a national health care option. I see "social" medical care every day in the Army and can tell you it sucks *** and is extremely wasteful. I'm not allowed (in technicality) to buy motrin for a headache, I hve to go to sick call, what do I leave sick call with? A big *** brown paper sack full of all sorts of different drugs that the doctor thought was necessary..do I care? "No, I didn't pay for it" is the mentality of most.

It's early...none of that probably made sense so /rant.

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I have similar feelings about this. I contribute to a retirement plan. Live modestly trying to save as much as possible so that I don't have to rely on the government to take care of me. Then there are those that don't support society even when they have the ability. Poor choice after poor choice increases the burden on societies responsible individuals. It's kind of shitty that people basically have to take their future well-being into their own hands. I have, however, crunched those theoretical numbers. IF they turn out to be correct, then the amount I will be contributing towards the "greater good" will be minimal.
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So let me get this straight...I'm serving in the US Army, I contribute 15% of every check to my TSP (thrift savings plan) it's kinda like a 401K. In addition to this I also have a high-ish yield savings account I put money in every month to save. I'm 21 years old. By the time I'm ready to retire I will have a nice chunk of change waiting for me. If I start paying extraa for the same health care I'm already getting then guess what's going to suffer, my savings.

Laquisha on the other hand...is 35 "supporting" 6 kids on welfare and has never held a job, and obviously isn't saving jack ****. undoubtedly she deserves the same quality of life when we're "old" as myself correct?

This is my problem with the nation going "socialist", Socialism IN THEORY is the perfect form of government, everyone does there part, everyone gets what they need BUT especially in this country not everyone will ever do their part, and those same people are the ones who will manipulate the system to get more than they need/deserve on top of it leaving me and people like myself to suffer the consequences/the bill.

As already stated, name 1 goverment agency that's run well/not manipulated/and in the black and I'll consider a national health care option. I see "social" medical care every day in the Army and can tell you it sucks *** and is extremely wasteful. I'm not allowed (in technicality) to buy motrin for a headache, I hve to go to sick call, what do I leave sick call with? A big *** brown paper sack full of all sorts of different drugs that the doctor thought was necessary..do I care? "No, I didn't pay for it" is the mentality of most.

It's early...none of that probably made sense so /rant.

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Don't forget that your people (Republicans) are the ones that want Laquisha to have all those kids instead of aborting them. Ironic, isn't it?


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they also oppose gay marriage where you can't even HAVE kids
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I might throw gas on a fire here. But as it is reported in the rest of the world, USA has the most expensive healthcae in the world, by a large margin. And still the quality of it is just on par with the rest of developed countries.

If someone pays for something, the money comes from somewhere, the only real loosers should be uninsured healthy individuals, who on the other hand probably gets a longer, healthier life, lets face it, diabetes and heart failure gets to a great percentage, especially in the low income percentiles.

Now this doesent concern me, but living in a country with government funded health care, being a health care professional, this is one thing i like paying taxes for.
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If anyone can point me to ONE govenment public program that is well run and in the black, I'll consider their arguement that this isn't a failed abortion of another public program.

I'll wait...

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Democrats are so moral! I'm so glad they help out their constituents! The Government is awesome, we should have them do everything for us!

If you want cheaper health care, remove the restraint of interstate competition. Simply going away with that will lower costs substantially. Heck, the bill could fit on (1) piece of paper. But that's not really the goal is it?


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Don't forget that your people (Republicans) are the ones that want Laquisha to have all those kids instead of aborting them. Ironic, isn't it?
... And that's what I hate about political stereotypes. Because I oppose national socialism, I must therefore also oppose the rights of women and gays. Otherwise, how can I fit neatly into one of the pre-packaged schools of political thought?
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i havent been vacinated since like the 6th grade where it was mandatory and im fine i basically just keep sick people away from me and dont let anyone around my food or **** if they show symtoms. Strong imune system and common sense to beat the **** outa people who are ******* with you go a long way.
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We need to "round-up" all these people who want socialized medicine and make them wear an arm-band. America is about sporting the money and power to buy and sell poor, brown people. If you take that away from us whites, how are we going to afford our yachts and ******? We already had to send textiles to the 3rd world because Americans who can't afford health care are too good to work in sweat-shops, so what's next?

Health care is not a fundamental human right, labor is. You have the right to work for me until you fall over dead, and STFU about it because I'm trying to relax on my yacht that I could almost not afford in an increase in federal income tax.
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... And that's what I hate about political stereotypes. Because I oppose national socialism, I must therefore also oppose the rights of women and gays. Otherwise, how can I fit neatly into one of the pre-packaged schools of political thought?
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I'm not allowed to be a non-religious, pro-choice, gun toting, constitutional-conservative?
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I'm not allowed to be a non-religious, pro-choice, gun toting, constitutional-conservative?
No, can I be though?
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I'm not allowed to be a non-religious, pro-choice, gun toting, constitutional-conservative?
Plus 1 to you and Joe.



On this bill...now we just need to pass "cap and trade" and really ruin this country.

I'm giving us 18 months before the **** really hits the fan. You think the economy was bad this last year...they've just barely kept the real storm at bay...and done a good job of letting us all get comfortable and allowing us to think everything is back to normal (besides double digit unemployment).

How can a society which does not work feed the poor and take care of the sick?



And "nay" to government run healthcare. The bumper sticker says it best:

"Think health care is expensive now...wait til it's FREE"

Big gubment has managed to **** up everything it takes control of. WHY?...because they are not required to succeed, and failure does not carry the consequences it would in a business setting.

USPS vs. UPS/FedEx is a prime example...and they're just carrying letters!!!

Imagine such a government organization in healthcare...


EDIT: Need a better example of government motivation to succeed...look no further than your local entities. Our school districts CAN'T seem to cut costs...so they are just raising our property taxes this year to survive in this economy. The city can't seem to cut costs either (like any good corporation planning on surviving should). Noticed more cops and more tickets this year? Yes, they are writing WAY more tickets to generate income. That's exactly what the unemployed and financially strapped need...to be missing a quarter of their paycheck for "unsafe lane change tickets" when you, I and God all know my Miata fit in that hole just fine.

If local governments are dipping into our pocketbooks this bad...think of what the federal government will do.
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