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Old 01-21-2008, 12:48 PM   #1
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http://www.kelolandautomall.com/show.aspx?vid=1093777
This car is about an hour from my house. My sisters b/f used to have one and as I recall it had the same engine as the Miata. Just thought it might be cool to throw a greddy kit on it and some tires with a bit more meat on them and smoke the **** out of people with it. Is that the exactly same motor that is in the Miata? Seems like it is priced pretty fair for such low miles.
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I believe the 1.6l in those cars was a SOHC, I had a 93 Protege 1.6 and it was SOHC, The 1.8's were DOHC.
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I believe the model you're looking for is the 323 GTX, which I believe is factory turbo, as well as AWD.

otherwise, you've got to head north

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"The GT model, only sold in Canada in 1990, 1991 and 1993, came with the 1.8 BP engine also found on the 1994-97 Mazda Miata."
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If the manifold is the same it would still work. I have no idea if it is or not. A top mount turbo might hit the hood though.

If I remember the Mercury Capri turbo 1.6 DOHC is easily swapped with the 323 N/A SOHC. I have been out of the loop with those cars for a long time though.
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Wow, the misinformation!

the 90-94 323 had a 1.6 SOHC boat anchor. AFAIK none of the manifolds from the DOHC one or the 1.8 motors work

The 90-94 protege had a 1.8 SOHC or a 1.8 DOHC (again the manifolds do't interchange)

In japan they had a 323 GTX and GTR which was an AWD 323 with a turbo 1.8 (bp). You can take the OEM turbo **** from these and bolt it onto the US BP or even a miata BP (although the exhaust manifolds face different ways).

The USDM 323 GTX was based on the older chassis and had a 1.6 DOHC turbo, most of the parts don't interchange.

If you bought that 323 you could buy an OEM turbo exhaust manifold and ECU and run a DOHC BP turbo from a 90-94 protege, 91-96 escort GT, escort LX-e, tracer LT-S, or maybe an early kia sephia. I'd use the mazda one because it has a main bearing support plate and IIRC the fuel lines are different.

Also the protege LX / excort GT/lx-e/lts 4 wheel discs and beefier suspension parts bolt into the 323.

The OEM GTX setup isn't good for very much power (175-220), to make a lot you need an SAFC and a bigger turbo. The 323 weighs in the low 2000# range and won't beat turbo civics very easily.
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yeah, but from what I've seen you can stick a cage in the 323s and remove a lot of metal from them... I've seen a few set up for racing that were running under 1600 lbs.
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Sleeper or not, that is one butt ugly little car.
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yeah, but from what I've seen you can stick a cage in the 323s and remove a lot of metal from them... I've seen a few set up for racing that were running under 1600 lbs.
I seriously doubt you can get a BG chassis 323 down that light

1900-2200 is realistic
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Sleeper or not, that is one butt ugly little car.


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AWD + turbo no matter how ugly Id rallyX it!!
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I ******* love 323gtx's.

All the ones i could find were ever way overpriced or beat up, rare little car.
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I ******* love 323gtx's.

All the ones i could find were ever way overpriced or beat up, rare little car.
I snagged one for $2500 with 60k miles... I thrashed it to hell and back and let it die a slow death... it was rust free too.

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I snagged one for $2500 with 60k miles... I thrashed it to hell and back and let it die a slow death... it was rust free too.

Mark


you should be killed for that...

I am sorry but 323GTX and 4g63 AWD colts are my favor lightweight car.


BTW if you looking for a sleeper to f**k with people. Buy an older mirage and then get an evo 1-3 motor and drivetrain. If I remember correct its any 80-90% direct swap
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