Tokina 11-16 f2.8 , finally got a UWA lens
11-08-2010, 10:47 AM
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The auto iso feature on my new camera is weird. I'm used to having to manually do it, so I'm getting some shots at 1200-3200iso with the flash.
The above picture in P mode was:
Focal Length 125 mm
Aperture Value f/7.1
Flash Compulsory Flash, Return light detected
ISO 1250
Shutter Speed Value 1/60 sec
full size is fairly grainy : http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...1/DSC_0158.JPG
The above picture in P mode was:
Focal Length 125 mm
Aperture Value f/7.1
Flash Compulsory Flash, Return light detected
ISO 1250
Shutter Speed Value 1/60 sec
full size is fairly grainy : http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...1/DSC_0158.JPG
I bet I'm not the only one here who downloads manuals to read before receiving new products like cameras...
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11-08-2010, 05:14 PM
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The auto iso feature on my new camera is weird. I'm used to having to manually do it, so I'm getting some shots at 1200-3200iso with the flash.
The above picture in P mode was:
Focal Length 125 mm
Aperture Value f/7.1
Flash Compulsory Flash, Return light detected
ISO 1250
Shutter Speed Value 1/60 sec
full size is fairly grainy : http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...1/DSC_0158.JPG
The above picture in P mode was:
Focal Length 125 mm
Aperture Value f/7.1
Flash Compulsory Flash, Return light detected
ISO 1250
Shutter Speed Value 1/60 sec
full size is fairly grainy : http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...1/DSC_0158.JPG
Photobucket is down, so I'll just upload examples here. Look like horrible ****, and certainly not like I was using a decent camera. Of course I'm not the most skilled with a camera, but my shots usually look much better than these. Thanks ISO crap.
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11-08-2010, 05:32 PM
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That actually doesn't look bad at all. Maybe I just have my **** set up wrong somewhere else other than ISO.
That first image was shot:
1/100 shutter
f5 aperture
18mm focus
1600 ISO
Also just realized I had it set to NEF+JPEG Basic... So that was just basic, not fine like I normally have set. Wish my camera had RAW+Fine option. Then again no point if you have the raw data.
That first image was shot:
1/100 shutter
f5 aperture
18mm focus
1600 ISO
Also just realized I had it set to NEF+JPEG Basic... So that was just basic, not fine like I normally have set. Wish my camera had RAW+Fine option. Then again no point if you have the raw data.
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11-08-2010, 05:38 PM
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I'm at basic JPG.
http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/compari...-iso/index.htm
does really well for ISO. d3100
http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/compari...-iso/index.htm
does really well for ISO. d3100
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11-08-2010, 05:44 PM
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Meh..f*k you guys and your DSLRs. I see that Canon has released the PowerShot SX30...I'm still using the PowerShot S5 IS. FML. I need to go up to the camera store (not the chain place) and do some comparison shots with my S5 and the SX30 and see just how much better Canon has made BBBZ/PnS image quality. The zoom is something crazy like 28-840mm equivalent (35x optical). I simply don't need another expensive "hobby"...not that I even take that many pictures. My GF no longer uses her Canon XS and that would probably be good enough for me...and I need to get my hands on CS5.
I mean, does my sig. pic really look like it was taken with a nearly 4 year old point 'n shoot with a whopping 8mp and 12x zoom (36-462 equiv.) ???
I mean, does my sig. pic really look like it was taken with a nearly 4 year old point 'n shoot with a whopping 8mp and 12x zoom (36-462 equiv.) ???
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11-08-2010, 06:04 PM
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I'm at basic JPG.
http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/compari...-iso/index.htm
does really well for ISO. d3100
http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/compari...-iso/index.htm
does really well for ISO. d3100
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11-08-2010, 08:32 PM
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Meh..f*k you guys and your DSLRs. I see that Canon has released the PowerShot SX30...I'm still using the PowerShot S5 IS. FML. I need to go up to the camera store (not the chain place) and do some comparison shots with my S5 and the SX30 and see just how much better Canon has made BBBZ/PnS image quality. The zoom is something crazy like 28-840mm equivalent (35x optical). I simply don't need another expensive "hobby"...not that I even take that many pictures. My GF no longer uses her Canon XS and that would probably be good enough for me...and I need to get my hands on CS5.
I mean, does my sig. pic really look like it was taken with a nearly 4 year old point 'n shoot with a whopping 8mp and 12x zoom (36-462 equiv.) ???
I mean, does my sig. pic really look like it was taken with a nearly 4 year old point 'n shoot with a whopping 8mp and 12x zoom (36-462 equiv.) ???
what's more important is manual setting capability. if you can't set your shutter and/or aperture, then all the zoom in the world will just get you larger scale mediocre images.
it's all about light and composition. if you can't control the light (shutter and aperture) then you're giving up half the game as soon as you pick up your camera. can you get lucky and get a PnS to take awesome photos? sure, but being able to set the camera up for the conditions you're in makes it much easier.
and then there's depth of field...
btw, the canon S95 is under $400 (sometimes on sale) and will do just about everything a DSLR can except swap lenses and flashes. and it will fit in your pocket.
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11-09-2010, 08:53 AM
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zoom isn't really relevant unless you can't walk. truth is if you can take a 12 megapixel shot and crop it, you'll get plenty of zoom effect.
what's more important is manual setting capability. if you can't set your shutter and/or aperture, then all the zoom in the world will just get you larger scale mediocre images.
it's all about light and composition. if you can't control the light (shutter and aperture) then you're giving up half the game as soon as you pick up your camera. can you get lucky and get a PnS to take awesome photos? sure, but being able to set the camera up for the conditions you're in makes it much easier. It's like saying I know enough about rotary engines...but don't own because I don't want the extra cost, so I have a Miata with the good BP instead
and then there's depth of field...
btw, the canon S95 is under $400 (sometimes on sale) and will do just about everything a DSLR can except swap lenses and flashes. and it will fit in your pocket.
what's more important is manual setting capability. if you can't set your shutter and/or aperture, then all the zoom in the world will just get you larger scale mediocre images.
it's all about light and composition. if you can't control the light (shutter and aperture) then you're giving up half the game as soon as you pick up your camera. can you get lucky and get a PnS to take awesome photos? sure, but being able to set the camera up for the conditions you're in makes it much easier. It's like saying I know enough about rotary engines...but don't own because I don't want the extra cost, so I have a Miata with the good BP instead
and then there's depth of field...
btw, the canon S95 is under $400 (sometimes on sale) and will do just about everything a DSLR can except swap lenses and flashes. and it will fit in your pocket.
The S95 is a pocket cam...not near the functions I need...way too small. Trust me I know the capabilities of a DSLR when it comes to much better ISO flexablility and the bazillion focal lenghts, shutter speed and aperature.
**** this..I'm buying a Hasselblad.
I can has DOF..and maybe some of this "bokeh" people speak of?
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11-09-2010, 09:21 AM
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I think I'm gonna purchase myself a 18-55 VR, since my old school D50 only came with the non VR version, and I hate hand shake ruining my slower shutter speed low light images. It really is a great lens though, best of both worlds, and according to Rockwell, it has superior optics to some of the higher end lenses like the 16-85 or 18-200. For $180 I can't help but buy the same lens, just with the damn VR feature.
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11-09-2010, 09:24 AM
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that's why i bought the d3100 
d3100 = $650
d40 = sold for $325
$325 to get 18-55mm VR
I do really like the 18-55mm it's a great "free" lens. I have the 35mm prime as well, but I'm not using it as much as I'd like. I really do want something wide like the OP posted...but alas.
d3100 = $650
d40 = sold for $325
$325 to get 18-55mm VR
I do really like the 18-55mm it's a great "free" lens. I have the 35mm prime as well, but I'm not using it as much as I'd like. I really do want something wide like the OP posted...but alas.
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11-09-2010, 09:55 AM
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that's why i bought the d3100
d3100 = $650
d40 = sold for $325
$325 to get 18-55mm VR
I do really like the 18-55mm it's a great "free" lens. I have the 35mm prime as well, but I'm not using it as much as I'd like. I really do want something wide like the OP posted...but alas.
d3100 = $650
d40 = sold for $325
$325 to get 18-55mm VR
I do really like the 18-55mm it's a great "free" lens. I have the 35mm prime as well, but I'm not using it as much as I'd like. I really do want something wide like the OP posted...but alas.
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