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pusha 03-15-2016 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1316029)
Its more just to avoid the pita of getting finger print cards.

Yo well I ain't no Greek so I don't deal with pita and I don't have fingerprints anymore so they only gonna get nine black smudges

pusha 03-15-2016 10:48 PM

you guys fuck with sig sauer or nah?

samnavy 03-15-2016 11:19 PM

I've got 2 solvent traps, one 5" C from Precision Products using 1xsteel 5xalum JPMF cups... don't know how much better I can do for $120 with something I can maintain in my garage. Also have an SDTactical 8" D steel tube that I'm waiting to decide how to baffle it... might do a couple steel JPMF cups and the rest FP's to up the legit'ness a pinch.

What I really need to do is just suck up a couple Form1's and worry about how to build them later.

I've got about 500ds through a Sig P226... doesn't do anything for me that any other full-size duty pistol doesn't do wrt how it functions or feels. Trigger is better than Glock and M&P, but not as good as XD... just for examples. I think it's the best looking full-size pistol out there.

Also, for the same price as ONE Sig P226, I can buy a Glock 17 AND a JR Carbine, or dual-weild PMR-30's, or a M&P9 w/TLR2 AND a Bodyguard .380 backup.

As far as being a "tool", I really can't consider any current full-size service pistol from a mainstream manufacturer as any "better" than any other. As toys or dick enhancers, there are differences, and Sig's I hear are popular with Porsche 911 owners and dudes in Prius's with rainbow Bern stickers. I will caveat that the Marines are currently rocking 1911's, and quite a few jarheads I cruised with wish they'd chosen Glock 21's over the Colt if that says anything.

pusha 03-15-2016 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1316043)
I've got 2 solvent traps, one 5" C from Precision Products using 1xsteel 5xalum JPMF cups... don't know how much better I can do for $120 with something I can maintain in my garage. Also have an SDTactical 8" D steel tube that I'm waiting to decide how to baffle it... might do a couple steel JPMF cups and the rest FP's to up the legit'ness a pinch.

What I really need to do is just suck up a couple Form1's and worry about how to build them later.

Which .22 can build would you recommend? I need something quieter than my Griffin Armament Checkmate QD.


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1316043)
I've got about 500ds through a Sig P226... doesn't do anything for me that any other full-size duty pistol doesn't do wrt how it functions or feels. Trigger is better than Glock and M&P, but not as good as XD... just for examples. I think it's the best looking full-size pistol out there.

Also, for the same price as ONE Sig P226, I can buy a Glock 17 AND a JR Carbine, or dual-weild PMR-30's, or a M&P9 w/TLR2 AND a Bodyguard .380 backup.

As far as being a "tool", I really can't consider any current full-size service pistol from a mainstream manufacturer as any "better" than any other. As toys or dick enhancers, there are differences, and Sig's I hear are popular with Porsche 911 owners and dudes in Prius's with rainbow Bern stickers.

I'm far from a Bernie fan but I've got nearly 2k through this P226 without any failures or cleaning beyond a wipe down and a greasejob on the rails. I shot a case and a half of Russian steel cased ammo to make sure my warranty was voided. It's been flawless and more accurate than I am but if I had to lodge a complaint, it would be the lack of readily available holsters.

I purchased this pistol expecting a pile of dogshit but somehow I lucked out.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458100072

Leafy 03-15-2016 11:53 PM

I ended up buying this one with their aluminum baffles. It ought to be damn silent on a rifle with standard and low velocity rounds. Its freaking enormous. The only downside to the design that I can find is that the baffles arent conical.

Monk 03-16-2016 12:01 AM

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I carried an m11 through a few deployments and liked it.
I chose to carry it over the Berretta.
I had a 2022 that I didn't like due mainly to feel.
I have a Sig 1911 that I love.
I like 1911s in general, and I think Sig offers good features and quality at their price point.
I wouldn't trade it for a Kimber worth three times as much.
It all depends on what you're looking for.
If I were looking for a modern service type pistol, I would take a walther ppq over anything in SIG's lineup.
But the new 229 legion gives me a lil chubby.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458101016

thejeans 03-16-2016 02:43 PM

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whats up guys, there are some badass guns in here...

heres a couple of mine, i dont have pics of everything but have pics of the ones youd likely want to see anyway haha
ive got some pistols (Glock19, S&W M&P 22A) an old Mosin Nagant, and a few shotguns

the hunting rifle: Remington Model Seven .243, Custom stock, Nikon Prostaff 3x9-40 scope and a bipod for at the range
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458153825


the AR that i built (well bought alot of different parts and assembled it myself haha)
pics arent that great but its got Flat Dark Earth accessories, a Stainless Steel fluted with 1:8 twist .223 Wylde Barrel, Fortis RED Muzzle Brake, and a cheapo red dot while i decide what optics i want to put on the gun long term.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458153825

better pic of the skeletonized magwell
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1458153825

samnavy 03-16-2016 03:31 PM

All good.
I just sprung for some lower parts from Schuyler... been waiting to find a name-brand buffer tube setup for a decent price and found it. I've got 2x Anderson lowers that I've got triggers and stocks for, just no other lower parts to complete them... this kit was perfect. Now I'll have 2 complete spare lowers.
Schuyler Arms | Vitals only lower build kit

I might spring for ALG triggers if they have a big blem sale at the beginning of the summer like last year (but I've got milspec trigger takeoffs for now). I also bought a couple 16" midlength barrels from Brownells a month ago when they had a ridiculous sale on them for $60. To finish off both guns, I just need stripped uppers, gas parts, and handguards. They'll probably get Primary Arms red-dots to start. Going to do it all real cheap though. Anybody know where I can find a steel gas block/tube combo for like $15?

Anybody have their favorite cheap-ass china-crap free float rail? I'm looking at the $40 ones and haven't been able to find an MLOK one, but these generic keymod clones seem to be fine for a beater/loaner/zombie choice.

Like these:

Schuyler 03-16-2016 03:38 PM

Wait, I own a gun company?

pusha 03-18-2016 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Schuyler (Post 1316282)
Wait, I own a gun company?

no go away

samnavy 03-19-2016 02:23 PM

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Put together the lowers...

Anderson Receivers
Anderson LPK-minus
PSA Classic Triggers
PSA Classic Grips
Kak Buffer Tube Kits

One lower with a Blackhawk stock and the other with a gun-show pistol tube. Everything fit perfect... no complaints with those Andersons if you don't mandate anything fancy. I'll function check these and then they'll probably sit in the safe. Brownells had a pop-up sale a few weeks ago and I grabbed 2x 16" midlength barrels for $60ea that will go on one of these. I've never felt the need for an AR pistol, but I think just this once I'll be on the lookout for a cheap shorty barrel just to see what the hype is all about. Once it's out of my system, I'll finish it off as a rifle and save both for a rainy day.

pusha 03-19-2016 04:45 PM

Was the one Anderson lower manufacturers and sold as a pistol?

samnavy 03-20-2016 10:07 PM

Nope, just receivers. Theres no pistol marking on them... I dont think anybody does that anymore.

Leafy 03-21-2016 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 1316964)
Was the one Anderson lower manufacturers and sold as a pistol?

Its not a rifle until you put a stock on it. But once you put a stock on it, it forever becomes a rifle.

samnavy 03-22-2016 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1317396)
Its not a rifle until you put a stock on it. But once you put a stock on it, it forever becomes a rifle.

That's incorrect... it's the initial build that matters if transferred as a receiver.


There are 3 boxes on the 4473 (Handgun/Rifle/Other-Receiver). If you have the FFL check OTHER, then the only thing you need to do is initially assemble it as a pistol, which can be as simple as not installing a buttstock on the regular 6-pos buffer and making sure the first upper you put on it makes the whole thing less than 26". Count 10 potatoes and you're good to go back and forth pistol/rifle forever.


However, if you put a stock on that buffer tube and THEN install a 16" barrel (THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU PUT IT TOGETHER), then it's an initial rifle build and you're screwed for ever making it a pistol. Of course this is in the privacy of your living room, so make sure you take lots of pictures and upload them to the web in a public forum.


https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/20...stols/download

Nonetheless, if a handgun or other weapon with an overall length of less than 26 inches, or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length is assembled or otherwise produced from a weapon originally assembled or produced only as a rifle, such a weapon is a “weapon made from a rifle” as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(4). Such a weapon would not be a “pistol” because the weapon was not originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile by one hand.


Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when parts in a kit that were originally designed to be configured as both a pistol and a rifle are assembled or re-assembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol, or a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length).


Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later unassembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol).


Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(4), is made when a handgun or other weapon with an overall length of less than 26 inches, or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length, is assembled or produced from a weapon originally assembled or produced only as a rifle. Such weapons must be registered and are subject to all requirements of the NFA.


More to the point... if there was a single court case where there was an actual trial, and somebody was actually found guilty of violating this rule, and it was an actual felony conviction, and somebody actually got bunked with the mysterious "bubba" that the internet is always talking about, then it is unknown to the entirety of the internet.


But, because of my respect for the gov't and thorough research of all federal gun laws, I ALWAYS throw a pistol buffer tube on every receiver I build, and then attach a 7" (I have one on hand specifically to do this) barreled upper to it... COUNT TO 10, one potato, two potato, three potato... I figure that's long enough. It's now a pistol, and can be configured to a rifle and back no issues.

stratosteve 03-22-2016 04:22 PM

Any recommendations for a trauma kit for a BOB or GHB? I have a first aid kit for boo boos but need something a little more robust.

pusha 03-22-2016 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by stratosteve (Post 1317621)
Any recommendations for a trauma kit for a BOB or GHB? I have a first aid kit for boo boos but need something a little more robust.

If you have to ask what should be in your trauma kit, you're already dead if you ever find yourself needing its contents.

Seek proper training before spending your money. No amount of tourniquets and gauze will save you if you don't know how to use it.

pusha 03-22-2016 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1317396)
Its not a rifle until you put a stock on it. But once you put a stock on it, it forever becomes a rifle.

lol

Guardiola 03-23-2016 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 1317701)
If you have to ask what should be in your trauma kit, you're already dead if you ever find yourself needing its contents.

Seek proper training before spending your money. No amount of tourniquets and gauze will save you if you don't know how to use it.

This ^

No point having a field surgeon kit if you don't know how to use it. Red Cross has classes you can take. A better resource would be your local technical college. First Responder classes are useful if you are interested in this kind of thing and some companies will even help pay your tuition. Most manufacturing facilities like having First Responders on site. Your company might even have a safety team already that can help you get started.

fooger03 03-23-2016 08:43 AM

Or you can just join the Army. They'll give you all the skills you need to patch up some trauma quickly enough to not die. They'll also give you a handy pack-light trauma kit.


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