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Supe 04-09-2024 08:46 AM

I always file individuals, as I have no need to share NFA items unattended.

Supe 04-11-2024 02:56 PM

2 eForm4's approved in 69 hours.

samnavy 04-11-2024 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Supe (Post 1648865)
2 eForm4's approved in 69 hours.

What is this freaking voodoo you speak of??? I just picked up an individual Form4 about a 6 weeks ago that took a legit 240 days. A month later we're down to fucking hours? This has got to be some kind of election-year conspiracy. WTH is going on?

Roda 04-11-2024 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1648876)
What is this freaking voodoo you speak of??? I just picked up an individual Form4 about a 6 weeks ago that took a legit 240 days. A month later we're down to fucking hours? This has got to be some kind of election-year conspiracy. WTH is going on?

New E Form individual submissions are coming back in hours or days right now. I don't think anyone really knows what's going on because there are still a large number of older submissions that have not been approved.

shuiend 04-12-2024 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Supe (Post 1648865)
2 eForm4's approved in 69 hours.

Awesome. Glad they came back that fast.


Originally Posted by Roda (Post 1648882)
New E Form individual submissions are coming back in hours or days right now. I don't think anyone really knows what's going on because there are still a large number of older submissions that have not been approved.

Yep. My belief is that the ATF may have gotten into a little of the DEA's stash and it's causing them to go quickly.

I am still waiting for my trust approval for my OCL titanium.

After testing out my 9mm 3dprinted suppressor, it is super tempting to put a form1 in for a .22lr one.

samnavy 04-12-2024 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1648905)
After testing out my 9mm 3dprinted suppressor, it is super tempting to put a form1 in for a .22lr one.

A quick browse of SilencerShop says that may be a good financial move in the short-term... prices for what little there is in stock are as close to the bullshit completely-arbitrary and absurdly-high-in-the-first-place MSRP as I've ever seen. If this keeps up for the next 6 months, expect prices on everything to drop by 50% as backorders catch up with demand. It is an absolute fucking screwjob that any rimfire suppressor should cost more than about $50... currently the cheapest in-stock unit on SS is $380! AYFKM? You can also expect a HUGE influx of new manufacturers to the game as every asshole with access to a CNC tries their luck. There are already dozens of small-time manufacturers out there that 95% of suppressor buyers have never heard of that will take up some of the slack in the short-term, but the new-new guys to the game will start selling decent stuff REALLY cheap before you know it.

OTOH, my conspiracy theory meter is pegged right now... within a week of NFA wait time falling from almost a year to less than a week, we have the new "engaged in the business of buying..." bullshit from the ATF. Granted, I live in a VA which went "mandatory background checks" a few years ago, but for those still living in free'ish states, watch out for your cornhole.

shuiend 04-13-2024 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1648928)
A quick browse of SilencerShop says that may be a good financial move in the short-term... prices for what little there is in stock are as close to the bullshit completely-arbitrary and absurdly-high-in-the-first-place MSRP as I've ever seen. If this keeps up for the next 6 months, expect prices on everything to drop by 50% as backorders catch up with demand. It is an absolute fucking screwjob that any rimfire suppressor should cost more than about $50... currently the cheapest in-stock unit on SS is $380! AYFKM? You can also expect a HUGE influx of new manufacturers to the game as every asshole with access to a CNC tries their luck. There are already dozens of small-time manufacturers out there that 95% of suppressor buyers have never heard of that will take up some of the slack in the short-term, but the new-new guys to the game will start selling decent stuff REALLY cheap before you know it.

OTOH, my conspiracy theory meter is pegged right now... within a week of NFA wait time falling from almost a year to less than a week, we have the new "engaged in the business of buying..." bullshit from the ATF. Granted, I live in a VA which went "mandatory background checks" a few years ago, but for those still living in free'ish states, watch out for your cornhole.

I mean you can build a rimfire suppresor for less then $50. For a commercial product that is light and works well, its probably not possible. I have an Otter Creek Labs Titanium in jail right now. No way you could build that for $50. You could probably build a heavy not great one for $150 msrp if you really tried.

I don't think there will be a large increase in manufactures out there. I think the license to become a manufacture is a pita and a bit costly. So that will keep people from jumping in and getting to cheap. Even budget brands have to have enough margin to put food on the table.

Now for some pictures of my 3dprinted suppressor.
https://i.imgur.com/jUr9Ufz.jpeg

AP5-P with 3dprinted magazine.
https://i.imgur.com/9CQ5XM8.jpeg

Carbon Fiber Tube is -5DB
https://i.imgur.com/PIvw1gO.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/HJtppJ7.jpeg




Supe 04-15-2024 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 1648876)
What is this freaking voodoo you speak of??? I just picked up an individual Form4 about a 6 weeks ago that took a legit 240 days. A month later we're down to fucking hours? This has got to be some kind of election-year conspiracy. WTH is going on?

My previous ones were a little over 10 months on average in late 2023. Only the eForm1 was quick (10 days-ish on an SBR).

ATF used to batch submit to NICS on first in first out. The bad ones would hold up the lot. They're now supposedly doing cursory reviews and batching forms that are a) properly filled out, and b) use the same SS# for multiple open submissions.

My suspicion is that they are desperately trying to avoid the next wave of lawsuits targeting their turnaround times of nearly a year vs. the 60 days they're supposed to have, and trying to bring the average approval time down as quickly as possible to say "see, everything is fine." I think there's also a healthy dose of "keep them happy so we can keep racking up $200/ea" and hoping that as long as everyone has their stuff, the outcry for "in common use" court cases will subside.

chiefmg 04-24-2024 04:35 AM

Finally! After waiting for more than a year and a half, yesterday I picked up my Mossberg Mariner. First they were too expensive, then I could never find them in stock. A lot of places started showed them in stock about two months ago but since I was at work all I could do was hope they were still available when I got home. It makes the Maverick 88 I have look puny. Going to strip it down today for a good cleaning/lubing.

chiefmg 04-25-2024 05:49 PM

Yesterday I picked up another new (to me) toy, a CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 carbine. Already swapped the safety levers and the pistol grip. CZ used a weird angle on theirs, didn't feel good to me. I have a bullpup conversion kit for it, I'm going to shoot it as-is first to see how I like it. I stripped it down as far as I could, apparently the previous owner didn't clean it as there was a bunch of gunk built up everywhere, as well as some grit that almost seemed like sand.

Efini~FC3S 04-26-2024 10:56 AM

Gents - not sure if any of you are familiar with the Kel-Tec Sub2000, but I bought one last year for shits and giggles when they had the $100 rebate going. Fun plinking carbine for $279 after rebate.

Anyway, I just got my rebate and was thinking of spending the $100 on upgrading the gun.

M-carbo seems to be the go-to for most sub2000 fans.

So, if you had $100 to upgrade a Gen 2 Sub2000, what would you get? No optics

Roda 04-26-2024 11:38 AM

Ammo.


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