samnavy

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Couldn't help it and bought 4 PSA safe/fire lowers... $29+$9shipping and sales tax... like $41ea shipped. I have a free FFL hookup here on island. They get shipped back home for safekeeping with everything else until I'm out of Hawaii.

Also... smoking deal on a great scope. Vortex recently discontinued the Diamondback HP series in favor of the the Diamondback Tactical series. The tacticals are same glass, but with, FFP, exposed turrets, and a hefty price increase that moves them into the budget Viper pricerange.... somebody figured out they were giving up too much marketshare to Athlon, I guess.

Anyways, Midway has the HP 4-16x44 on sale for $199.

I have shot several Diamondbacks on various guns and have pair of Diamondback 10x binos... they are superb, and not just for the money. If you're looking for a good looking mid-magnification scope, this really is a stellar deal.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/37...-reticle-matte

chiefmg

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Visiting either PSA or Bud's sites is hazardous to one's wallet.

Guardiola

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Well now I might have to build that AR-9 pistol I've been thinking about. Or at least put the lower together while the price is right.

samnavy

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^I'm glad I held out on ever buying a Glock-mag lower. With Mean-Arms recently coming out with the EndoMag (seriously, how long did that take the industry?), there's just no reason to do it anymore. I've already got some desert-tan PMAGS that I'll convert some day when I get around to actually purchasing a 9mm upper. They're so cheap nowadays... I think PSA has had sales for pistol length w/BCG-CH for the low $200's...

Leafy

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Cripe its the price of 3 P mags. Looks like we could just 3d print these though...

samnavy

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^I used to think it would be cool to have my pistol and rifle take the same magazines... never actually thought about having to "fight" with a pistol caliber carbine and how that might shorten my lifespan. If we're just talking about having fun, then more power to whatever stuff you want to try out and money you want to waste in the experiment.

And yes, the Endomag conversion is $80 for a 3-pk, which is straight robbery, but the big thing it does is allow you to use the same magazines you would normally fight with, and use ammo that's half the price with similar felt recoil.

A $300 PSA 16" upper and $80/3pk Endomag kit takes 3200rds of 9mm to "pay off" the difference between .223 before you're shooting for half-price.

Roda

If anyone's looking to build a .300blk pistol or SBR, PSA has a smokin' deal on 8" complete uppers right now... $219!

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...h-bcg-ch1.html

No affiliation, just about the cheapest I've seen for a BLK upper... Over the last few months, I've gone a little crazy with PSA stuff, and I have to say the quality is pretty darn good for the price point. I'm restraining myself from ordering several of their stripped lowers, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to last.

One of the guns I picked up is a PSA 9mm pistol upper, and shot it yesterday with the Endomag PMag conversions. Worked perfectly, but the only issue is clearing the gun if you didn't empty the mag... the ejector is part of the magazine, so when you remove the mag, then run the bolt, the chambered round will not eject. You have to lock back, and knock it down the magwell with your finger. Not the most efficient process, and I can see someone thinking they cleared the gun and having one still in the pipe.



As far as the utility of the 9mm, it's really just a fun gun, and mine will eventually be a suppressor host. If I just want AR trigger time, I have an S&W M&P 15-22 for that.

samnavy

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I think I've read just about every review and YT video out there on this system. It's definitely something you have to be aware of. Hopefully my Dad and the military made me paranoid enough about that kind of thing that the muscle memory will be quickly learned.

I've also been eyeing the CMMG Guard 9mm setup, although it's a lot more expensive.

samnavy

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DVOR has an epic sale on MDT LSS chassis. The cheapest I've ever seen these was about 3 years ago when they had a blowout on blems... and they were $300. The models are limited, but if you have one these fit, $204 is the cheapest you'll ever get into a good chassis.
https://www.dvor.com/mdt-chassis-sys...019-07-17.html

Honestly, it's almost worth buying the cheapest Savage Axis you can find, and throwing in a Rifle Basix trigger for a budget setup.

chiefmg

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Went to a local range with my oldest Saturday. They were having a special $1 rental so we tried out a Sig P320 full size. Somewhat lighter than the P226 I have experience with but overall size seemed to be about the same. It felt more solid shooting than the P226 (if that makes sense) but I wonder if that is just due to it having fewer rounds through it with a resulting stronger recoil spring. I had some trouble getting a good sight picture (partly due to my bifocals I think, need to find some single correction glasses just for shooting), he did too until the final couple of magazines he shot. Overall a nice gun to shoot, I do have to wonder how the composite lower will hold up against the metal slide as far as wear goes.

Leafy

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As with all polymer framed guns, the P320 has metal bits that the slide actual runs on, so the slide and the plastic grip shouldnt actually touch.

rleete

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Not all poly frame guns have metal on all sliding surfaces.

rmcelwee

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I've been away forever. A local friend is showing interest in 80% lowers. I'd take some advice if you guys had some to give.

samnavy

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I've got a long response forming in my head that is gonna hafta wait until I get an actual desktop... lots to talk about and consider. I'm your huckleberry.

rmcelwee

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I figured you would chime in. I have a dead on accurate Colt Hbar Elite AR15 and looking at this as another "build a project for as little as possible" but my friend is looking for something different. Will be interesting to see where it ends up. I know at least I will save some money on the build if we are splitting the cost of the jig.

rmcelwee

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FWIW, here is something I created with my laser the other day (belt fed pistol?):

Roda

Unless the point is non-papered receiver, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the $39 lowers from PSA, or equivalent.

samnavy

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Gotta decide why you're buying them. Any reason you can give is problematic based on my predictions on what's gonna happen with the gun laws in the next decade or so.

UBC's at the federal level will pass eventually... maybe as early as January '21 depending on who wins. I don't think they're gonna get it to Trumps desk this time around, but it's almost a certainty that it's gonna happen. Eventually, public sentiment will turn enough that nobody can afford not to back it.

This is the actual language of the law passed by the House this February... the subsection in reference is a background check:
“(t) (1) (A) It shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s).

Read this... from the website of a firearms attorney:

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Recordkeeping Requirements

If a homemade firearm is sold or transferred (as long as the gun was originally made for personal use), the sale is subject to the same set of transactional regulations that govern sales between private individuals. For example, while federally licensed firearms dealers are required to conduct background checks on prospective purchasers and maintain records of all firearms transactions, the sale of a firearm between two private individuals is not subject to the same level of scrutiny in certain states.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF), an individual can sell or transfer a firearm to another person without record keeping as long as both individuals reside in the same state and the recipient is not someone who falls within the categories of prohibited persons (such as a convicted felon). There may be state or local regulations that otherwise impact the transaction, but as far as federal law is concerned, it is not necessary for the seller to be licensed, nor is the seller required to perform a background check of the buyer. There is no federal regulation that precludes a transaction involving a homemade firearm from being sold or transferred in a similar manner, as long as such a sale or transfer was not the original intent of the firearm’s maker.

Additional Identifying Marks

Federal law does not require a homemade gun to have an identifying marker (such as a serial number), as long as it remains in the possession of the original maker. However, if the gun is subsequently sold or otherwise transferred, it should be marked prior to its disposition. The ATF suggests that all homemade firearms be marked with a serial number as a safeguard in the event the firearm is lost or stolen, but requires it if the gun is otherwise lawfully transferred in the future.
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So, the ATF doesn't mandate markings... which leads us to the next step in how it'll work. UBC's won't work without registration, and registrations doesn't work without serializing every firearm. So, when UBC's pass, many states will update laws mandating serialization if you intend to sell a homemade firearm. It has to be that way. Then we'll see the mandatory stamping of homemade firearms upon building it. It has to be that way for UBC's to eventually turn into registration and "work".

SO... having a stockpile of 80% paperweights will eventually mean that in order to do anything with them, you'll need to serialize and register them anyways. It's only a matter of time... 2yrs, 20yrs, 50yrs? California already requires the serialization of homemade firearms.
https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/atta...umer-alert.pdf

SO... gonna finish them to 100%? What for? Sell them during the apocalypse? How you gonna get parts?

SO... gonna save them for when they get banned? How is somebody gonna get parts? The AR15 market dies a horrible overnight death the day they get banned. Even if you can keep the ones you already own, 90% of the market for parts goes bankrupt. A lower parts kit will be $400 a year after the ban hits.

SO... gotta actually think it through what you're gonna do with them. Rainy day scenario doesn't pan out. Apocalypse scenario doesn't pan out. Ban scenario doesn't pan out.

MY ADVICE... you live in SC, just go into your local PSA and buy a complete blem rifle for $300... buy one a month until November '20 and see what happens. Sitting on 15 completely built AR15's is a helluva lot better than a case of 80% paperweights.

shuiend

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I will own a full sized bridgeport mill soon.

DNMakinson

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