For those keeping track... just got my "it's ready to certify" email from Silencershop yesterday. So now I need to schedule an appt with my dealer and go down there in person with my EFILE information and do the next step. I'm pretty sure that after that step is when I can start counting to "90 days'.

^This is what I wanted to hear, and what I have heard repeatedly from most TurboK owners I've come across and read about. For optics... I'm saving for an Aimpoint Micro. I ran one for a week awhile back when I did a thing and now I don't question whether it's worth an extra $500 over a Holosun/Vortex/Sig/PA.

LPT - For your first safe, buy at least one size bigger then you were planning. I am now in the process of purchasing a second safe.

Also do I grab a simple Remington 870, or go straight to the Benelli M4? Whatever I pick will probably be the only shotgun I own.

+1 Safes fill up pretty quickly. I bought the biggest Liberty I could find locally, and am ready for a second one three years later.

What's the mission?

870s are simple and reliable. I don't think I've ever seen one go down in training. On the other hand, they do take some training to be proficient with them. Most of the problems I've seen were induced by the shooter... short stroking, running it dry, etc. They seem super simple, but running one in an extended scenario is a lot of work. And a loaded up 870 with side saddle and extended mag is one front heavy SOB.

Semis are nice because they are usually lighter, and soak up some of the recoil. I'm not up to speed on some of the newer (last 10 years) semis, but the older ones were never reliable over the long term. Nice to shoot when they ran, though.

I just did not think of holding additional things other then firearms. Need room for those things. And then I will also have a garage safe. Got to keep the super secret MKTurbo parts locked away.


It does not have a real mission. I would like to shoot some trap and skeet sometime. Maybe go on a turkey hunt or two. Easy for the wife to use, hence why I am thinking about semi-auto. Possibly for home defense, but more in the defense side. I figure to be a good American I need a shotgun. Later this week I am hoping to hit up a local range or two and see if they have both for rental. Then give them a try and see which one feels better.

Shotgun
Ruger 10/22
Hunting Rifle

That is the list of my next 3 fire arms purchase. The 870 leaves a ton of spare money for the next two items on the list.

For occasional skeet/trap/hunting, I'd definitely look at a semi auto. But you definitely don't need to spend M4 money.

Everyone needs a 10/22... ;)

Fixed it for you
Ruger 10 22 Trigger | Ruger Precision Rifle Accessories (franklinarmory.com)

My son Austin, the class 3 FFl dealer, got me the very first one in Texas.
With a decent Ruger 25 round magazine it makes the plinkester far more fun...

I do have one of those Franklin triggers... have never been able to get it to run reliably. I do know another shooter that has one that runs OK.

Mine ONLY works with the real Ruger mags.
It works perfectly with those and didn't do so well with anything else

Mine works OK with the ten round mags, but not at all with the 15 or 25 round mags. All Ruger mags.

Tried a variety of ammo, but haven't found anything that works reliably. One of these days I'll call Franklin and see if they have any ideas. I'm pretty sure the hammer is just putting too much drag on the bolt, slowing it down.

I've had a Mossberg 930 for a few years now. Breacher barrel w/3rd extension, and extended charge handle. The extension goes about 1" past the barrel tip, but I don't expect to do any breaching... will still rip a face off if I get to contact distance. My HD ammo of choice is anybody's #4 buck... whatever is cheapest. I've probably shot 1500rds of #4 buck through it, and the occasional slug... except for the very first round (my fault, it was dry as a bone), it's never failed. It's got a Vortex Venom up top.

It sits in the safe loaded with #4, and a saddle with extra #4 and a few slugs. The bandolier is on a shelf in the safe. I practice opening the safe, looping the bandolier over my shoulder, removing the safety flag, chambering a round, activating the Venom, and getting to the bedroom door to cover the stairs... routinely. It's still way too fucking long a time if I know somebody is already in the house. The Glock is in my hand in (literally) 3 seconds and ready to go with 1000lumens and 15rds of 124gr Hydraschock. I can be at the bottom of the stairs and have emptied a magazine before I get the 930 out of the safe. I know that a shotgun has it's place in your plan... but it's gonna be tough to bypass the Glock and go for the shotgun when seconds count. Plus, I'm upstairs and the kids are downstairs, so always considering the "I own everything that comes out the barrel" 9mm round at a time vs. 20'ish supersonic 1/4" lead balls. I have to get down the stairs as quickly as possible to cover their bedroom hall entry.

It's a helluva thing when you actually start to add science to your HD plan... how are you going to engage what kind of threat at what distances inside your own home, not kill any neighbors, not blind yourself when you shoot, etc...

Future plans for the 930 are a red-dot with whatever shake-awake technology (I haven't tried a Holosun yet) is in it, and leaving the chamber flag out of my "safe-storage" principles... will knock off 3-4 seconds to ready... and leaving the bandolier. The wife can back me up with the Glock as we both head downstairs towards the kids.

IMHO, nobody uses enough lube in their semi-auto shotguns, or doesn't understand the difference between a light field-load and 3.5" turkey magnums and why the gun will run with one and not the other, or both. For HD, pick something that runs well and stick with it... nobody handloads shotgun for self-defense... and for as much cheap Russian steel .223 rounds I've cycled onto the ground out after a failure, I've never had a single shell of Royal #4 not fire... whatever's cheapest.

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I've been chasing a high(er) end target .22 pistol for a few months now and finally scored one off GB. Made a run at a couple different auctions before successfully winning one for a Hammerli 208. There were a couple different candidates, including Walther GSPs, and even a Baikal, but I'm completely happy with the Hammerli as an example of a competition level pistol. It's not in the same class as a Pardini, but the 208 has been winning medals in competition since its introduction in 1963. Mine was made in 1975.

So far, I've only had time for about 3 magazines at the local range when I picked the gun up. The first two were CCI SV, and after making the necessary sight adjustments, I shot one mag of Lapua.

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A few decades ago, I might have been able to do this gun justice, but I'm just not as steady as I used to be, and I have to use readers to see the front sight. Also, the factory grips did not fit my hand well. I was able to find a set of Rink grips in the proper size for sale here in the US, so they are on the way. We'll see if that, and some practice with it helps... at this point it's all just for fun and trigger practice anyway. ;)

July 4th my son brings an arsenal out.
AKs, AR15s, a real M16, HK MP5s you name it...
We had 15 shooters and blasted the shit out of a bunch of old soda cans (filled).
The star of the day was my ancient beater 10/22 with the Franklin trigger.
We ran a whole box 525 rounds of super cheapy Federal "Champion" ammo (think Walmart).
We had a single round misfire but it was just a bad round and had nothing to do with the trigger.
I used a new in box Ruger BX-25 X2 mag (PM298).
I did nothing to the new mag.
It worked flawlessly...
I hadn't yet really tested the piss out of it before my last comments and just wanted to let Roda know that mine works great.
Quickest 25 round dump took 2.5 seconds.
That's 600 RPM...
After I brought it out everyone wanted to shoot it.
Just like the true machine guns after 50 rounds we had to let it cool off.
It's nasty dirty today.

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So, cops show up from multiple agencies on a citizen's doorstep demanding to see guns purchased because he bought two guns at once. Watch the video, too.

https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/20/d...per-guns-home/

4th Amendment?

It's a consensual contact, no warrant needed to knock on a door and talk to someone. The flip side is he could have told them to kick rocks, and they would have to have obtained a search warrant to look at his guns. Unlikely a warrant would be issued based only on a multiple sale.

An automatic flag is generated on a multiple gun purchase, looks like ATF is bored enough in that area that they are actually knocking on doors to ask about it. Pretty stupid to show up looking like that for that kind of visit.

BTW, this should probably be in the 'gun rights' thread instead of the 'show and tell' thread.

True. I'll see about moving it when I get to a computer.

Bought my first big-block AR, a Sig 716i Tread in .308. Topped it with an Athlon Ares ETR 1-10x, swapped the muzzle device for a Xeno brake, swapped the ACS stock off one of my 5.56 ARs and headed for the range this morning.

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All I had on hand was some Win white box M80 150gr, and the results weren't all that impressive. The 8lb trigger wasn't helping things, nor was the fact that my shooting glasses kept fogging up. I was still able to ring steel out to 250 (the limit at our range) without any issues. The gun ran fine, and after zeroing, I mounted my Nomad L for the rest of the morning. Need to get some different bullet weights and find out what it likes. It also needs a better stock for precision work... something like a Magpul PRS, maybe.

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Also took my Bergara 6.5CM, which shot well, as it always does.

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Amazing what a few grains will do. I've shot every factory load of 6.5CM I can find through my Ruger American. It shoots ANY 123gr or 125gr like a laser. Anything above that is 3moa... not shitting you, it's like a switch. It likes Win Deer Season XP 125gr the best.

I haven't gone that light with the 6.5, but my Bergara does like 140s better than 147s. I'm getting good enough results with the 140s that I'm sticking with that for now. The .308 AR seems to like heavier bullets and shoots 168 Hornady TAP a lot better than the 150 ball ammo. Still up there over 1.5 MOA, however. Definitely got more work to do...

Finally got around to loading up some 6.5CM, so it was back to the range this morning for some initial load testing...

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41g of IMR 4350 shot best at around .7 MOA, though I wasn't shooting for groups as much as getting chronograph data. Now it's time for fine tuning, though I wish I had easy access to enough distance to do a proper ladder test.

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I still don't have a relief, but we are now in port and I happened to check a site I've been following for a long time (like maybe 8 months) waiting on them to make more of the .308 80% lower I wanted. They finally had them listed, although I must have missed out as there were only three left (or they didn't make that many). Had to get a raw one but that's fine, I'm going to get back in touch with a guy who makes stencils and see if he will follow up this time. Another little project to occupy my time/have some stress relief when I get home.