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Old 03-19-2012, 04:16 AM   #1
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I was going to write this in the Gun Tread, but I didn't want to thread jack. So any way if the Zombie Apocalypse was 3 days from happening what kind of firearm (based on ammo) like .40 or .223. But of coarse you have to carry all supplies like food, firearm, ammo and etc. Most engagements would be from 5 to 120 yards. Why did you choose that? I will post up what I chose later, remember best bang for your buck
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Since you have over 100 posts I will play along.

Ruger 10/22 with a large scope. You can carry 1000s of rounds of ammo in a back pack and just sit in a tree stand somewhere (zombies cannot climb ladders). I think they have fragile skulls so penetration isn't much of an issue.
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Since you have over 100 posts I will play along.

Ruger 10/22 with a large scope. You can carry 1000s of rounds of ammo in a back pack and just sit in a tree stand somewhere (zombies cannot climb ladders). I think they have fragile skulls so penetration isn't much of an issue.
I don't disagree with "fragile skulls", because genetically, zombies are supposed to be "human", and as far as most bullets are concerned, human skulls are indeed fragile.

I do, however, disagree with "zombies cannot climb ladders"

Why can't they? What's to stop a zombie from climbing a ladder? For that matter, what's to stop a zombie from driving a car, or flying an airplane?

"zombies cannot climb ladders" is considering a very narrow definition of a "zombie" - how many zombie crisis have you survived?

I would expect a "zombie" infestation would be defined as a highly contagious neural disease which substantially increases the hosts desire to kill other living beings to a point where all rational thought and motor skills are devoted to the next kill. Effectively killing things would be like shooting heroine to a junkie, and I'll do whatever the hell it takes to get your *** out of that tree - to include picking up your buddies AR (that I snagged after I killed him) and picking you off at 150m while you're defending yourself from my buddies trying to climb your ladder.

All of the other "characteristics" of a zombie invasion will be unknown until it actually occurs.
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I would expect a "zombie" infestation would be defined as a highly contagious neural disease which substantially increases the hosts desire to kill other living beings to a point where all rational thought and motor skills are devoted to the next kill. Effectively killing things would be like shooting heroine to a junkie, and I'll do whatever the hell it takes to get your *** out of that tree - to include picking up your buddies AR (that I snagged after I killed him) and picking you off at 150m while you're defending yourself from my buddies trying to climb your ladder.

All of the other "characteristics" of a zombie invasion will be unknown until it actually occurs.

While I only subscribe to the "Zombie Apocalypse" trend with very sarcastic undertones or from the emergency management/preparation standpoint, you point out a very interesting proposition of something I believe could theoretically happen. This would make something similar to The Walking Dead both plausible and implausible at the same time, especially if you consider the bombshell most of us (well, most I talk to about the show) suspected for a great part of the series thus far.

The burning question is, all things considered would a single gunshot to the head really put down a "Zombie" that is capable of some sort of decision making thought process?
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While I only subscribe to the "Zombie Apocalypse" trend with very sarcastic undertones or from the emergency management/preparation standpoint, you point out a very interesting proposition of something I believe could theoretically happen. This would make something similar to The Walking Dead both plausible and implausible at the same time, especially if you consider the bombshell most of us (well, most I talk to about the show) suspected for a great part of the series thus far.

The burning question is, all things considered would a single gunshot to the head really put down a "Zombie" that is capable of some sort of decision making thought process?
The "zombie" would of course die at a rate similar to humans receiving gunshots to the head - some humans live after receiving the gunshot to the head. Unfortunately, humans are usually incapacitated by pain, whereas a blood-lusting "zombie" might incorrectly percieve that killing you will solve his immediate problem. Your gunshot to the head then might have to directly destroy motor-function abilities immediately, because while a normal human might survive in pain for 10 more minutes, the "zombie" is going to survive in a continuing state of blood-lust for that 10 minutes.

Still, I suspect that two shots to the face would probably do sufficient damage to the nervous system to cause near-instant death - or only one shot with a large caliber soft or hollow point bullet.
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mossberg 500 persuader for a street sweeper and an AR with a 22 conversion please
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-A suppressed AR in .308
-A suppressed Kel Tec PMR-30 in .22 Magnum with nightsights.
-A short barrel shotgun, whatever can hold the most shells, no buttstock, as lightweight as possible.
-A flare gun.
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I would just start killing people before the virus spreads

For "just in case".
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Muzzle energy for your average 115gr 9mm round fired from a 16" barrel is 500-600ftlbs, or about what you get from a .357magnum in a 3"-4" revolver. This kind of energy causes heads to damn near explode, or at a minimum, there is little left of the opposite side of the skull from point of entry and all of the brains have left what is left of the skull.

The answer to you zombie woes is a KelTec Sub2000 with a tac-vest full of 33rd 9mm Glock mags and a $100 red-dot.
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10mm master race checking in
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KelTec Sub2000 will make your head assplod
Good point, is it as accurate as an AR.
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10mm master race checking in
Good luck finding ammo, or do you have a 10,000 rounds stashed away in your anus?
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Good point, is it as accurate as an AR?
Accuracy as it pertains to killing things is overrated. Whether a particular gun with a particular round will shoot 1"@500yds or 2"@500yds IS a matter of accuracy. But to kill a person, 1" groups is not required... let's say fist sized groups is good enough.

Even the shittiest "rifle" should be able to get you head sized groups out to 200-300 yds on iron sights, and fist-sized groups with any sort of optic no matter how bad a shooter you are. After considering that you just need to be "accurate enough", your though process should be about power, how easy the gun is to operate (not only for you, but for other non-gun-inclined people), reliability, and availability of ammo.

AR's would be great for killing zombies. They are reliable, accurate, plentiful, easy'ish to work on, etc... but the fact that your KelTec Sub2000 will share magazines with your Glock 17/19, means you have a short/medium range killing package that even an idiot can operate.

However... an AR+1911 combo vs. Sub2k+G17 debate could go both ways all day. How about AK+DesertEagle or Mini14+.44mag or dual-wield PMR30's.

HELLZAYEAHHHHHH DUAL WEILD PMR30's = ULTIMATE ZOMBIE ARSENAL!!! You can put 1000rds in a freaking fanny-pack.
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The .22lr is what I would choose because light weight ammo, quiet and is still deadly. It is so easy to carry a 1000 rounds in your pockets. If the zombies can hear to find there next target than a home made suppressor is easy to build out of about anything if need be. I have had a .22lr go through a cow skull at 200-250 yards.
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Yeah, but what if you have to shoot people too? I think Sam has the right idea with the 9mm glock/Sub2000 combo. Not that A suppressed .22 would be good to have too though.
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more people get killed (murder/accidental) by a .22 than any other bullet, not including war.
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Maybe because people treat a .22 less like a real gun then other caliber weapons.
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.22lr - good enough for alligators - good enough for you

I planned my aresenal around the military calibers - 5.56/7.62 - and .22lr
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