Midtenn

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I agree, mid corner is not the time to assert your claim to the inside of the track. I learned that lesson last year at Barber in the big sweeper when I was following two cars racing. One car steps off line so I decided to stick my nose in only to get chopped down on. Luckily it was only minor contact and we both continued on. Now I just try to be patient and let events unfold in front or find a safer place to pass.

Braineack

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Joe Perez

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^ That's just retarded. No other way to put it.

Joe Perez

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Here we catch a rare glimpse at the mating dance of the endangered spotted Porsche:

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JasonC SBB

He claims he hit the brakes and it swerved.

It looked to me that he was holding the steering wheels loosely, and if he'd stopped the wheel turning right he wouldn't have crashed (3rd vid):

Here's What Happens When Your Camaro Gets Sideways At 195 MPH

Braineack

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you know we have a thread for bad driving videos right?

limp-wristed the steering, not enough room to actually slow down, not enough safety equipment for how fast that car was.

he lifts and hits the brakes at 200mph and takes his hand off the wheel and looks like he even shifts (another very poor shift) and completely upsets the balance of the car that cant even do straight well.

TurboTim

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chutes are for pussies.

y8s

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m2cupcar

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Car steered violently when passenger passed out?

good2go

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Well, I'm going to be generous and assume the driver was still delirious when he got out of the car, because he made zero effort to rescue, or at least oversee, the rescue of his passenger. Under his own power, he just walks away from the car, still on his own feet, and makes no attempt, let alone gesture, to return to aide his "buddy for life". It just defies my every instinct.

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astral

These guys decided to go with G-Force (budget) harnesses, improper mounting for those harnesses (the seats without pass through holes for the harnesses), no full cage (a shitty thin tubed half cage at that) and NO ******* HANS?!?!?!?!?!!

It's a miracle these fools didn't lose their lives.

Midtenn

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Land speed cars going slower speeds over longer distance have better safety equipment than this car. Hell our Chump Car that doesn't see over 115 has to have a full cage. Shiiiit boys, lets go 70% faster will nothing but crappily installed harnesses and a roll bar.

ryansmoneypit

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Please elaborate on this. I work in the textile industry, testing in particular. I've only held a couple different belts in my hands, and haven't done any in depth research as to the construction and materials used. US made mill spec materials always test better than others, with the exception of one European manufacturer. Nylon is the preferred webb material. Good strength to weight ratio, but need expensive chemical treatments to resist UV rays. They all use what I think is an incorrect stitch pattern. Metal components have the same susceptibilites as the textile webbing.

What difference have you guys seen or know of, regarding the quality difference in the various manufacturers belts? I might need to dig way into this...

If anyone has old belts they would like to donate to science, I can test for things like stretch, cycle load and ultimate strength.

hi_im_sean

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I have an old Y shouldered harness I can send you Ryan.

astral

G-force may be well and good, I can't say as I don't have experience with their belts. In their defense, they do hold certification.

That being said, you would like a car with this much power and this much money put into it would be utilizing a professional race tested belt, such as Schroth or Sabelt. Sabelt was used in one of the most demanding racing classed, F1, for quite a long time. That for me allows me to put a lot of trust in the manufacturer. I would rather crash in my 200mph+ car with a manufacturer with race heritage rather than a budget belt, even with FIA certification.


On another note, second video this week (after the Camaro) that a stupidly fast car is pathetically under equipped with safety equipment. This idiot is running a 200+mph car with stock safety stuff and what looks like no roll cage whatsoever.

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-it-...t-r-1784524970

ryansmoneypit

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So you aren't actually speaking from any personal knowledge, inspection or testing. Thank you for this. Opinions are like, well, you know...

F1 racing, isn't it rife with money infused politics? I could be wrong.

Every form of racing seems to have a following of certain brands. Coming from off road racing, you don't see Sabelt often, if ever. Can't imagine many other motorsports where the vehicle runs on the brink of disaster at 150mph. For hours at a time.

I was looking for actual proof and or experience. I have the ability to test said budget and high end pieces, but not the money to buy the specimens.

HHammerly

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So the question after installing all the go fast goodies and safety equipment (whatever that may be) and before atempting to drive at 200+ mph is: does this car produse lift or downforse at that speed and how much... A quick google search say that an ss camaro produces 200 lbs of lift at 150mph, it apears that this car could not keep traction at full throttle at near 200 mph over ondulations of the runway etc. it seems like a pretty basic thing to ask your self

ryansmoneypit

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Well that's pretty insightful, and sadly, I'm not sure I would have thought of that. Today Miata Turbo.net made me more esmart. Thank you for that.

HHammerly

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Dont feel bad about it, look at what hapened At Le Mans a few years ago, aero is a big thing at speed, i worked at a wind tunel testing cars for Ford and it was a always a fineline between drag and downforce

astral

The Mercedes CLR also had terrible backflip issues as well in the 1999 LM. I believe multiple of these cars flipped during Lemans to the point the Merc had to pull the cars.