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Hairdressr 10-09-2017 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1444666)
Does he think we are pushing LS coils because we get something out of it? After so many COP failures, we must just have an agenda? I don't know what people are thinking about us. Defies logic.

I dont think you're pushing them to steer me wrong but I think what I'm planning to use will be sufficient and cleaner looking.

Girz0r 10-09-2017 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1444699)
Looking to build a track car with 400+ whp

Imo, you'd be better off with a camaro LFX v6 or LS v8 swap for the amount of money to be spent for that 400+ hp goal. Long term, build up the motor & heads for high rpm abuse and you'll have a reliable track v8.

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 03:05 PM

I have a question while you guys are here so I don't add to clutter in the forum. I've searched but is there a thread with 300+ hp BP track builds? I'm just looking for input/experience on anything relatable. I've read through the detonation on built motors but I didn't see any higher HP builds that were listed and setup for road course use.

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1444703)
Imo, you'd be better off with a camaro LFX v6 or LS v8 swap for the amount of money to be spent for that 400+ hp goal. Long term, build up the heads for high rpm abuse and you'll have a reliable track v8.

I'll be running a turbo(efr 7064) capable of more but I suspect the most I would see on a road course would be 400(maybe less) to limit heat soak on a 1.9L built motor( CP 10:1 pistons, carillo rods, supertech +1 valves, edlebrock honda IM, tubular ram horn manifold).

I will be running all this on e85. I will feel the car out on track on wastegate boost(1 bar) and go from there.

The engine is built and I'm working on the harness right now. I hope to have it fully operational by the end of the year.

If this one blows I'll probably just replace with a LSX

sixshooter 10-09-2017 03:16 PM

I'm at 319whp but I'm not the poster child of how to do anything the professional way. Most of my parts were used. It's a cheap track beater.

There's probably a dozen guys I could name off that are over 300 but only a couple over 400 because the transmission options would never hold the power until now. So there was no real point. The real struggle was always to make something last on the track. Durability in that environment is difficult to master.

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1444708)
I'm at 319whp but I'm not the poster child of how to do anything the professional way. Most of my parts were used. It's a cheap track beater.

There's probably a dozen guys I could name off that are over 300 but only a couple over 400 because the transmission options would never hold the power until now. So there was no real point. The real struggle was always to make something last on the track. Durability in that environment is difficult to master.

So it sounds like there wont be much information here for me in that power range. I will be running a Quaife gearset with 949 racing twin disk so holding the power shouldn't be a problem. The only thing that stands out for me to upgrade that I can see is the rear diff as it's just an OEM 4.10 LSD, I'd like to put in an os giken eventually or maybe just upgrade to a ford 8.8.

I'm just interested to see what kind of spool I'll get from this setup. I'm hoping to get full boost(20 psi) by around 4000 rpms if possible. it's on a .83 turbine housing.

18psi 10-09-2017 04:01 PM

Really cool story bro.
Let's see pics of all this stuff you've got, sounds really cool. Better not just be a wet dream.

My car's doing great btw. New owner is enjoying it daily and hasn't changed anything. Thanks for asking

Girz0r 10-09-2017 04:12 PM

Sounds like a wet dream.

Queue teriyaki boyz theme song.

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 04:26 PM

This is all I've got until I get back to the shop this coming weekend
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4a44dc76aa.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...59f8a63c03.jpg

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 04:32 PM

Here are some EFR's i have laying aroundhttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...80f3e811e5.jpg

Reverant 10-09-2017 04:48 PM

I'm not a big fan of the LS coils either. I've seen them misfire at rich mixtures (10.7-10.9) whereas as other coils did fine (including the stock ones). Maybe a bad batch, I don't know. The VAG R8 coils are know to work well up to 300hp per cylinder but are unreliable (and extremely cheap to replace). The S2000/K20 coils work up to 350hp per cylinder and are extremely reliable. They also don't require an ignition lead.

sixshooter 10-09-2017 05:55 PM

Quaife won't hold up. Ask Deerhunter, BBundy and a few others. Like I said, there have not been any good transmission options until the BMW swap that just came out. The problem has never been coming up with the power out of the engine. It just has never been fruitful to go up past about 300-350 depending upon whether or not you're trying to make it survive on the street or the track.

One of our guys here is running 45 or 50 lb of boost currently with a Ford transmission.

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1444722)
I'm not a big fan of the LS coils either. I've seen them misfire at rich mixtures (10.7-10.9) whereas as other coils did fine (including the stock ones). Maybe a bad batch, I don't know. The VAG R8 coils are know to work well up to 300hp per cylinder but are unreliable (and extremely cheap to replace). The S2000/K20 coils work up to 350hp per cylinder and are extremely reliable. They also don't require an ignition lead.

I'd consider the Honda coils but I already have a harness for the FSI coils and I've not had any problems with them on other applications. I'm glad someone that's familiar with them can step in and back what I'm saying at least as far as power they can support. I have no intentions of ever going over 150 hp per cylinder in this car with this engine. If I want to do that I'll buy an LS

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1444728)
Quaife won't hold up. Ask Deerhunter, BBundy and a few others. Like I said, there have not been any good transmission options until the BMW swap that just came out. The problem has never been coming up with the power out of the engine. It just has never been fruitful to go up past about 300-350 depending upon whether or not you're trying to make it survive on the street or the track.

One of our guys here is running 45 or 50 lb of boost currently with a Ford transmission.

If you don't mind, what's been known to happen to them? The quaife gearsets?

sixshooter 10-09-2017 06:03 PM

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Missing and screwed up teeth, to my recollection.

concealer404 10-09-2017 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1444649)
I'm here to improve the community with new ideas. If a little sarcasm isn't tolerated then maybe the website should be changed to something a little more feminine/sensitive. What's the status of your car these days 18psi?

Your thread title would make it seem that you have a question or two. So far the closest thing to a question you've posed has been greeted with answers, which you've then completely ignored.

So what's the question?

18psi 10-09-2017 06:20 PM

The question is: why is he so awesome and we’re all so dumb?

Hairdressr 10-09-2017 06:53 PM

Looks like I'm going silent....Every post I make 18psi gives me negetive rep even when I post things he's asked for.

The only questions I've asked are:

1) Where do you guys place the ECU/fusebox for standalones? No answer
2) What coilpacks do you run? Ones that are comparable to the one's I'm running but not as clean(IMO)
3) Is there existence of a Miata with FSI coils that's had coil misfire/failure? No answer
4) Why do quaife gear sets fail? Broken gear teeth

So 2/4 for you guys.

It would be nice to be in a place where I could learn something when I get this car running and vice versa. I have no doubt I'll figure it out either way but I was just hoping I could catch a break on the negative reps so I can hang out for a little.

18psi you think you can take a break from the negetive reps? Anything you'd like me to do for you to stop?

concealer404 10-09-2017 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1444739)
Looks like I'm going silent....Every post I make 18psi gives me negetive rep even when I post things he's asked for.

The only questions I've asked are:

1) Where do you guys place the ECU/fusebox for standalones? No answer 99% of the builds here use PNPs. So.... oem locations.
2) What coilpacks do you run? Ones that are comparable to the one's I'm running but not as clean(IMO) Ones that work and have support. LS coils, 1gn-1a, toyota cops
3) Is there existence of a Miata with FSI coils that's had coil misfire/failure? No answer Nobody uses those, even though they're the best ever
4) Why do quaife gear sets fail? Broken gear teeth Because they're not strong enough/

So 2/4 for you guys.

It would be nice to be in a place where I could learn something when I get this car running and vice versa. I have no doubt I'll figure it out either way but I was just hoping I could catch a break on the negative reps so I can hang out for a little.

18psi you think you can take a break from the negetive reps? Anything you'd like me to do for you to stop?

You're being an askhole.

18psi 10-09-2017 07:33 PM

what's funny is I'm not even neg repping him lol
didn't consider it worth my while
you want me to neg rep you? don't try to make this personal, there are many here that see the dumb in your posts :)


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