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Monk 10-09-2017 07:40 PM

18psi has owned more miatas than most of us see on the street in a given year.
He has tuned countless more.
Are you questioning his knowledge because he doesn't currently have one?

patsmx5 10-09-2017 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1444739)
Looks like I'm going silent....Every post I make 18psi gives me negetive rep even when I post things he's asked for.

The only questions I've asked are:

1) Where do you guys place the ECU/fusebox for standalones? No answer
2) What coilpacks do you run? Ones that are comparable to the one's I'm running but not as clean(IMO)
3) Is there existence of a Miata with FSI coils that's had coil misfire/failure? No answer
4) Why do quaife gear sets fail? Broken gear teeth

So 2/4 for you guys.

It would be nice to be in a place where I could learn something when I get this car running and vice versa. I have no doubt I'll figure it out either way but I was just hoping I could catch a break on the negative reps so I can hang out for a little.

18psi you think you can take a break from the negetive reps? Anything you'd like me to do for you to stop?

If you go through my build thread, you'll find where my ECU/fuse box are, what coilpacks I run to 40 PSI with perfect reliability, and a drivetrain that's uh, stronger than whatever you're building.

patsmx5 10-09-2017 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1444653)
Bro, I put denso cops on my Miata, and it turned into a twin turbo huracan

http://www.eurocollective.com/images...ngine%20ok.jpg

I LOL'd when I saw this! Accurate...

ryansmoneypit 10-09-2017 10:16 PM

I had to read this whole thread. The amount of OP retard, is amazing.

BROOOOOO, go read some build threads....they take a while- skim the pics and read around them if you are really lazy.

mitymazda 10-09-2017 10:26 PM

Is failaides contagious? Cause I'm a misguided idiot and just want to see sure it's not me with the icky drip spreading the dumb.

Nothing against the OP, its clear from the timeline I didn't give him anything.

sixshooter 10-10-2017 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1444796)
Is failaides contagious? Cause I'm a misguided idiot and just want to see sure it's not me with the icky drip spreading the dumb.

Nothing against the OP, its clear from the timeline I didn't give him anything.

Failaids is contagious, but you were not the carrier that infected the OP. He seemed to have an advanced case. Symptoms typically include expecting to be spoon fed, feelings of superiority coming from other makes, and dismissal of any prior experiential learning that may have occurred here because we weren't typically turning up the power past X number that they are used to seeing on heavier cars with more robust power trains. It's like they think that we've collectively never thought of putting a larger turbo and bigger injectors on our engines. That's the easy part. Any Honda tard can do that. When you've got people like Bob Bundy who have blown 5-speeds, 6-speeds, and Quaifes stacked up behind their garages like cord wood at 350 horsepower it really begs the question, "Why don't we run 450 horsepower like Hondas and Nissans?" But the guys who don't know the platform are always the smart ones. They'll tell you what you're doing wrong in a second.

18psi 10-10-2017 10:19 AM

truth

I'm actually currently tuning a 300whp Miata and a 400+ whp Miata, which makes this thread that much more amusing.

turbofan 10-10-2017 02:10 PM

you'd think that if he'd been here before, he'd know better than to say "I guess I'll just stop talking since you all clearly don't want to hear from me" as if that's going to make us say "oh, you're right, you're so smart, plz come back."

do it, then post results. LS coils work, some others do too. Haven't seen anyone run the Audi coils. Try it and tell us how it goes.

psyber_0ptix 10-10-2017 04:02 PM

Having been through Toyota Cops, Fail9 pencil coils, D514a's and now running D585 Truck coils, for the cost, the LS coils work quite well. Will other's work? Sure, but there's no sense in slapping dicks over such debate so long as they perform without blowout. This is like asking, "What works better ATE Type 200 or Motul RBF 600." One may be better, but it doesn't matter if all your car does is sit in the garage or is used to pick up your 2 taquitos for $2.22 at 7-eleven; both will do the job. I think most the finicky stuff boils down to getting the right wires made. SadFAB is hard to beat for coil mounting and wires. $120 for the package deal. You can order ls2/7 complete harness and relocation cable for easy wiring for another $40. Source a couple coils and you'll have a sub $200 coil solution guaranteed and proven to take you 400hp and beyond. If you're worried about auto-ignition, just migrate to the Mercury Marine IGN-1A (I have a set on standby) or whatever flavor coil you wish to mount.


Don't be ~that guy~ and just diarrhea over collective forum experience and knowledge. If you have something to prove, show us and prove us wrong, go ahead and change the paradigm, add to collective knowledge or even better, open up opportunities for new product development. We don't have time for most of the bench seat racing and pictures posted of parts on the shelf. For most, all the great vendors and member contributions are enough to reach ascertainable goals. For those shooting beyond the moon, you gotta try, fail and report back. We're all standing on the shoulder of giants when it comes to high power " the easy way" these days. Longevity and reliability seemingly takes just as much luck as it does planning. There are other platforms that are more than likely able get you to where you want to be as has been mentioned before.

Sadly you already have a BP built, otherwise a turbo K swap might have been a good easy button.

I like that manifold btw.

Leafy 10-10-2017 10:46 PM

OP dont word fight, prove with actions.

My non-pnp stand alone is under where the factory head light would be. I dont recommended it, already found it full of water once. But I'm waiting to get rid of the brake booster to move it into the cab, proper electronic bulkhead fittings are quite large and I figured if I made it so the engine could come out in 20 minutes I'd never have to pull it.

I'm running the LS truck coils since they're a known good item and I get them for $80 a set anywhere at any U-pull-it in the country. They just work and there's no fighting to figure out what car exactly you need to pull your coils from to get the right boot.

psyber_0ptix 10-10-2017 10:59 PM

Not to mention Savington's baller settings are just a search away for the d585's. You don't need to second guess anything. Just transcribe the tables into haltec

austinfowble 10-12-2017 03:24 PM

Big turbo+ e85 +lots of lag = a good time

18psi 10-12-2017 03:31 PM

oh look, the ban button

Monk 10-12-2017 05:46 PM

This thread shall not die!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...da431c79cd.jpg

Hairdressr 10-13-2017 12:19 AM

After some research and speaking to a few members about the quaife gear set it looks like it wont suffice for my goals. I'll probably use it to get the car running and basic tuning but it doesn't look to be suitable for track use over 300 wheel torque. most likely I'll make an adapter plate for a T56 close ratio transmission with a 8.8 diff. 4.10 gear. I know there's a new kit for a BMW ZF engine but the gearing in the T56 is more what I was looking for with cheap final dive gears in the 8.8 rear end and if I ever go LS it will bolt right up and handle 750 wheel torque if I ever get bored, throw a big ass turbo on and do a half mile event.

Ratios at 8000 rpm
2.66 50MPH
1.78 75MPH
1.3 103
1 134
.8 167
.63 212

mitymazda 10-13-2017 12:48 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0ae88d36e8.jpg

turbofan 10-13-2017 09:19 AM

Half mile, Great idea. The Miata will totes be stable at 200 mph.

Hairdressr 10-13-2017 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1445532)
Half mile, Great idea. The Miata will totes be stable at 200 mph.

It would take 1200whp+ for a miata to do 200 mph in a half mile. I'm sure Blackbird's elongated designs would work just fine at a half mile event.

18psi 10-13-2017 10:18 AM

:laugh:

Scaxx 10-13-2017 11:55 AM

So you want to buy a transmission that costs $1700-2000 alone and weighs an extra 70 lb. Then fabricate an adapter plate as well as all the other pieces to make them work together? All because that way you can eventually bolt an LS up to it and "throw" a big turbo on it and take it to the half mile? Am I getting that right? Not sure you fully realize how much effort, time, and money any of the ideas you've suggested will take.

Also, just as a heads up, the intake manifold on the LS is plastic and if you throw a big turbo at it it might crack.


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