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18psi 10-13-2017 12:07 PM

Dude.
I'm about to Veyron swap my Miata, but it's just temporary cause next year I'm gonna koeniggsegg swap it with quintuple turbos for autox use.

sixshooter 10-13-2017 12:46 PM

Sounds reasonable. Be sure to use at least two baskets. Don't want that Koeningsegg all in one.

Hairdressr 10-13-2017 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Scaxx (Post 1445573)
So you want to buy a transmission that costs $1700-2000 alone and weighs an extra 70 lb. Then fabricate an adapter plate as well as all the other pieces to make them work together? All because that way you can eventually bolt an LS up to it and "throw" a big turbo on it and take it to the half mile? Am I getting that right? Not sure you fully realize how much effort, time, and money any of the ideas you've suggested will take.

Also, just as a heads up, the intake manifold on the LS is plastic and if you throw a big turbo at it it might crack.

When my goal is to build a miata that can compete with pretty much anything on track(besides carts) a $2000 transmission isn't much, especially since I can probably sell the quaife for $3000. 74 pounds isn't much when I can safely handle double the torque load reliably. As far as the big turbo I'd be putting it on the BP not the LS. The LS would only be used if I destroyed this engine somehow but I'd already have the transmission for it then and I already have the v8 roadsters subframe in the car now. I hope that makes sense.

I have access to CNC machines so making an adapter plate should be fairly easy. and there are kits out for the 8.8 rear end already so other than the adapter plate, trans mounts and driveshaft it shouldn't be too bad.

Hairdressr 10-13-2017 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1445576)
Dude.
I'm about to Veyron swap my Miata, but it's just temporary cause next year I'm gonna koeniggsegg swap it with quintuple turbos for autox use.


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1445585)
Sounds reasonable. Be sure to use at least two baskets. Don't want that Koeningsegg all in one.

??? Not sure how swapping in a 15 year old transmission equates to a Veyron/Koeniggsegg swap but to each his own.

18psi 10-13-2017 01:41 PM

Ok, let's start over:

There are 3 types of people here:
1) ones that bring a big game
2) ones that talk a big game
3) ones that do neither of the above

So far, you came in here talking like a hardcore know-it-all baller builder with tons of super expensive parts and awesome tools/machinery at your disposal, and goals that many (most?) here have never even attempted to set because they're so optimistic. After seemingly looking for input, you ignored it all and basically told us that you're here to show us how its done, because you're so awesome and we're all dumb.

Then you posted some super random cropped manifold picture, and a picture of two loose turbos on a shelf.

In other words, you're like the 5 billionth n00b to do this, and we've seen it so often that it's getting boring at this point.

The only reason I haven't banned you for creating a duplicate profile, after your original one was banned for being a 'tard, is because I'm really hoping that at least most of your claims are legitimate, and you're at least half as awesome as you think you are, and will actually deliver a worthwhile build thread building a really nasty boosted Miata.

So now that I lovingly chewed up the info, put it into a spoon, and slid it into your pouty little lips, would it be fair to ask you for more pictures, and actual progress on your car?
No more dreaming, no more crying, just pictures and progress now

sixshooter 10-13-2017 01:50 PM

Before you think that 18 PSI is being mean, he pretty much hit the nail on the head on all the big talking dreamers we've had here who were going to show us just exactly how to do it the right way since we are all a bunch of dumbasses.

Hairdressr 10-13-2017 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1445593)
Ok, let's start over:

There are 3 types of people here:
1) ones that bring a big game
2) ones that talk a big game
3) ones that do neither of the above

So far, you came in here talking like a hardcore know-it-all baller builder with tons of super expensive parts and awesome tools/machinery at your disposal, and goals that many (most?) here have never even attempted to set because they're so optimistic. After seemingly looking for input, you ignored it all and basically told us that you're here to show us how its done, because you're so awesome and we're all dumb.

Then you posted some super random cropped manifold picture, and a picture of two loose turbos on a shelf.

In other words, you're like the 5 billionth n00b to do this, and we've seen it so often that it's getting boring at this point.

The only reason I haven't banned you for creating a duplicate profile, after your original one was banned for being a 'tard, is because I'm really hoping that at least most of your claims are legitimate, and you're at least half as awesome as you think you are, and will actually deliver a worthwhile build thread building a really nasty boosted Miata.

So now that I lovingly chewed up the info, put it into a spoon, and slid it into your pouty little lips, would it be fair to ask you for more pictures, and actual progress on your car?
No more dreaming, no more crying, just pictures and progress now

I'll being doing some work on it Sunday. I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for but I take a few pics. The engine is built, the trans and clutch are installed. I'll send you a pic of the carbon fiber driveshaft, carbon cam wheel cover polished valve cover and polished intake manifold :-D. I'll take pics of the $4000 electronics setup. So I hope this will appease you for the time being but it wont be done overnight.

Girz0r 10-13-2017 02:47 PM

Carbon fiber shaft and $4000 electronics.

Photoes plaz.

Hairdressr 10-15-2017 01:05 PM

Here's the car in it's current statehttps://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b97b1bcd45.jpgHonda IM and TB
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...727b0a91a5.jpgIt will be painted
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...00a88ed866.jpgwill be replaced with custom harness
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dbe2c69f3b.jpghalf cage
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...17ec2d4c13.jpglightweight
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...de048cc746.jpgcarbon and stock DS. Wont be using either
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...35ac51a61d.jpgLS coils....wont be using these :-P
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0f483fcc17.jpgtubular subframe, tein monoflex
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1e326d973b.jpgwidebody and track lights
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...71a7677d0d.jpgneeds some cleaning
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dd2ed86afe.jpgquaife and 929 twin disk
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a231f0e360.jpgracecar stuff, logger racepal with GPS and haltech standalone

turbofan 10-15-2017 02:13 PM

Stop telling us what will be, just show us what is. And it's not fucking 929 racimg, unless you pulled it from a Mazda 929. I'd give you an infraction for retardedness just for that, plus your paint scheme on the front fenders.

What have you built in the past?

18psi 10-15-2017 03:48 PM

thanks for the pics, at least we can see somewhat where you're starting.
it looks like it will need a TON of work. probably more than if you were to start with a stock car, but at least there are some nice parts there. looks like it was trashed though

psyber_0ptix 10-15-2017 03:58 PM

That's not a tubular subframe.

Hairdressr 10-15-2017 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1445800)
Stop telling us what will be, just show us what is. And it's not fucking 929 racimg, unless you pulled it from a Mazda 929. I'd give you an infraction for retardedness just for that, plus your paint scheme on the front fenders.

What have you built in the past?

What are you even talking about? I just did show you what it is. I only posted this so you guys would see what I'm saying is real. If you don't want to look at my posts feel free to not look ;-)

949* Racing twin disk

It says on that picture the fender will be painted if you read under the picture. They came like that and I it's pointless to paint them while I'm building the car.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1445810)
thanks for the pics, at least we can see somewhat where you're starting.
it looks like it will need a TON of work. probably more than if you were to start with a stock car, but at least there are some nice parts there. looks like it was trashed though

I don't see how it would be more than a stock car as I would have to take it apart to it's current state anyway. I'm stripping the whole car's harness and putting in a Milspec engine disconnect cleaning out all unnecessary wires in the process. It's not trached just dirty and unorganized.


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1445811)
That's not a tubular subframe.

Tubular control arms*

hi_im_sean 10-15-2017 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1445822)
Milspec engine, disconnect



Originally Posted by Hairdressr (Post 1445822)
Milspec, engine disconnect

?

ryansmoneypit 10-15-2017 08:58 PM

I want to see past fab work. Something simple and nice.


It is a major cash consuming lump at this point. Good luck with the whole process. Moddin' ain't easy bro.

mitymazda 10-15-2017 09:31 PM

Like 18psi said looks like you have some nice part's and the beginnings of something. What's the back story on the car? What was the guy before you planing with it and where did he stop and you pickup? Looks like it been sitting for a while and needs some clean up but that's how it goes. Where are you going to start the build process, the bolt on stuff or the fab stuff? Is the entire wire harness dogshit? It's definitely a project and you have set the bar pretty high coming in here swinging your dick around and it would be interesting to see how you pull off the final product. Good luck though.

Monk 10-15-2017 11:24 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...48658997b2.png

This weld brought to you by Racing Beat.

mitymazda 10-15-2017 11:39 PM

^^^ totally.


​​​​​​​Are those drifting front control arms?

Hairdressr 10-15-2017 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by hi_im_sean (Post 1445847)
?

https://www.prowireusa.com/p-1490-61...-conn-kit.aspx



Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1445853)
I want to see past fab work. Something simple and nice.


It is a major cash consuming lump at this point. Good luck with the whole process. Moddin' ain't easy bro.

Coming from building Audi's this is cheap.


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1445857)
Like 18psi said looks like you have some nice part's and the beginnings of something. What's the back story on the car? What was the guy before you planing with it and where did he stop and you pickup? Looks like it been sitting for a while and needs some clean up but that's how it goes. Where are you going to start the build process, the bolt on stuff or the fab stuff? Is the entire wire harness dogshit? It's definitely a project and you have set the bar pretty high coming in here swinging your dick around and it would be interesting to see how you pull off the final product. Good luck though.

The only things to fab are the harness, the intercooler piping, the downpipe/exhaust and the transmission solution, everything else bolts up. I don't want to use any of the factory harness. I'm not swinging my dick, I'm just not an idiot/newb to (fast)cars and have access to other inputs from industry professionals but it's obviously nice to have input from the turbo miata community as well.

I'm starting development with a well known company that specializes in making parts to adapt transmissions to other engines this coming week. I hope to have a solid solution by the end of the month. We'll see.

Hairdressr 10-16-2017 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by mitymazda (Post 1445866)
^^^ totally.


Are those drifting front control arms?

​​​​​​​https://v8roadsters.com/product/tubu...arms-full-set/


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