spd579 is a Scamming Piece of fecal matter. Buyers BE WARE.
 

2 weeks ago on 9/23, I bought a Snow Performance water-meth injection kit from spd579 listed here:

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...843&highlight=



At the bottom of the first page, I asked for more details on the kit, as the picture he posted was totally uninformative. He pointed to THIS kit:

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?...7350%20%20BLUE



saying that the kit he was selling was the Flyin Miata kit minus the gauge. The Flyin Miata kit is the Snow Stage 2 Boost Cooler kit

http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=8


with the Safejection box added:

http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=13



It wasn't the exact kit I was looking for so I offered him $300:

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Which he accepted. I paid for it immediately via Paypal.

Several days pass with neither word from Drew, nor parts showing up at my house. On 9/28, I sent him the following PM:

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on 9/30 I get this response:

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No big deal. Life happens. I'm not worried about it. Wednesday 10/5 rolls around, and the USPS lady drops off the box. I'm home between classes, and I immediately open it up, to find that the Safejection box and the check valve that keeps the tank from siphoning into your intake manifold when you shut the car off and hydrolocking your motor the next time you start it are both missing. On top of the kit being incomplete and the Safejection box being absent, it's the WRONG kit. He sent me the MAF control box, not the pressure referenced kit. I've never owned a Miata with a MAF. This is utterly useless to me.

I give dude the benefit of the doubt and send him this PM:

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His response:

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I send this back and he starts ignoring my PMs. Note the time stamps on the mesages:

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Which finally gets a response:

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I thought it was self evident that I would send his kit back. The only thing useful out of it is the tank. The electronics are beyond useless to me.



I don't think there's any debate to be had here. I bought a complete Snow Performance Stage 2 Boost Cooler kit with the Safejection box. I was sent the wrong kit, missing parts, and missing the Safejection box. He has been completely uncooperative, and has made no attempt whatsoever to make this right. If this is the way he acts over $300, how can you expect him to treat you if you buy something more expensive from him?

Ya, that's pretty shitty. GL

sounds pretty clear to me, spd579 owes you a refund. If you don't get satisfaction from this, paypal has explorable options than can help, and have helped me in the past.

I don't think there's any luck to be had. Paypal doesn't care what he sent me as long as he sent me something. He's obviously a worthless sumbitch, so I don't expect my money back no matter what. Oh well.

Anybody want an incomplete Snow Stage 2 MAF kit?

did he not put a return address? the internet is very strong with the dark side, I mean pizza man.

I've got a return address, but I'm better than that.

spd579 owes a refund

haha

https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/kosei-k1-ts-15x7-w-w-o-205-50-15-tires-hard-dog-door-bars-60558/

not to rain on your rainy parade, but please dont swear in thread titles.

why can't i tag this post =(

isn't this the same fgt that was selling an ebay churbo kit for a long ass time? trying to make it sound legit and making posts like "please keep this on topic" cause he knew everyone would tell him to throw it in the trash instead of trying to unload it?

maybe I"m mistaken

This is pretty shitty. I guess having self respect and being honest is not trendy anymore.

<----- 100% feedback sucka's, I'm proud of that.

Ok so I'm not planning on reading through all this because I really dont care that much and im about to leave. I'll refund you the missing parts price at the discounted price you received the kit at. take it or leave it

Stand up trustworthy seller right here ladies and gentlement.
Yup.

So what exactly are you offering here?

Whatever it is, its not as good as a full refund like you should get. Don't settle for his "take it or leave it" bs. That's a snake move on his part.

Get on the phone with PayPal in the morning and explain everything. You'd be surprised how helpful they can be if you have proof and keep level headed throughout the process.

This is why I don't even touch the money in my PayPal account until the buyer either responds with a positive feedback or its been 14 days since they receive the item.

He probably spent all or a portion of the money you sent, therefore sending it back wont exactly be easy for him to do without dipping into his bank account. Don't worry though, PayPal doesn't care if he has it or not. They'll pull it, you'll be all set and he'll go into the negative. Not to mention lose any credit whatsoever that he had here.

Good luck with all this man.

take retail of the kit i sold you, then what you paid. with that ratio use for the retail of the "missing parts" and I'll refund you that since you decided to be a little bitch and leave out all the other shit you said to me about not even wanting this kit.

I'm sorry to MT.net I didn't prepare better for my defense but I've bought and sold over 10k worth of parts on here but with no problematic transaction and i never expected this two faced bitch to whine to all of you after he lowballed me, talked shit about my part, says hes just going to sell it, then cry's about it.

See what you do is, take the ratio of ass-to-mouth, divide it by the the the square root of your ballsack, and then solve for X. After you figure that out, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

1/67%.
10k worth of parts.
Yup, totally believable.

lol....just dropped $2500 here....less than a week ago:fawk

https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/absurdflow-gt2860-vband-tial-works-rollbar-seat-partout-60654/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/1-6-gtx-valve-cover-55897/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/custom-manifold-dp-v-band-tial-wg-59188/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/meth-injection-turbo-blanket-guage-mount-oil-lines-shift-light-58843/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/fs-more-ls2-truck-coils-55197/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/trap-lip-trap-spoiler-complete-c-system-misc-parts-59186/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/artech-complete-manifold-dp-turbo-3-side-exit-exhaust-58060/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/1-6-begi-mani-dp-injectors-ic-tp-vc-bov-driveshaft-56437/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/99-00-ms2-brain-edition-ebs-58061/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/fs-turbo-kit-55078/
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-parts-sale-trade-5/fs-ssr-type-c-forged-16x6-5-w-205-45-16-hankook-rs-2-a-49733/

just a few satisfied customers....

Dude, come on. I already posted the one (1) PM in which I said that it wasn't the exact kit I wanted.

I've been professional and courteous, if a little pissed off at times. I warned you several times that I would post this all in public. Including another PM after all of these that I didn't bother posting here. You have no defense because your actions are indefensible.

And you're nuttier than a portapotty at a peanut festival if you think arguing with everybody is making you look less douche-like.

btw great section you picked here.....bc this is all bs. done here

I see a bunch of locked for sale threads and a small/shitty seller rating.

Were you trying to make a point?

Who gives a shit, there is non-satisfied customer right here. He should be more important than anything right now, if you have some dignity.

Do the right thing and stop being a jackass.

I apologize, thinking you were capable of simple logic. My point was that yes, I have sold and bought a lot of shit on here, and yes, they all went wonderfully. Btw, why is a guy that doesn't have a miata here again?

Who doesn't have a Miata? And why does it matter?

I have a miata. Where the fuck are you cunts getting your info?
I'm on my second one by the way.
Are you retarded or just really bad at trolling in an attempt to change the subject after you rip someone off?

ban

Don't ban yet, dude needs his money.

I am pretty sure you can make a PP claim saying the kit was not as described. Might at least be worth a shot.

OP: NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR PAST FOR SALE THREADS IF YOU ARE CURRENTLY FUCKING SOMEONE OVER.

There is still time to man up. Why screw over a fellow enthusiast. Unless you post something to the contrary, it looks like you knew what you were doing when you screwed him over.

So if he sent everything back to you, would you then give a full refund? I have seen this brought up, but not directly. That would resolve this whole deal and things could end as amicably as possible.

^^^ this.

Ok, since I didnt prepare a defense I'll just state what I know here:

1)He told me he wanted a water/meth kit
2)He said he wanted AEM
3)He said he was going to sell this kit to get the AEM
4)I said I will refund him the discounted rate of the missing parts
5)I dont see what the problem is with that.
6)I will refund him him minus shipping if that will make him/you all happy once I get it back, complete.
7)Not sure why you're referring to the OP's for sale threads....??

Refund money, get said kit back, THEN sell it as it REALLY is... come on dude, it appears your walking a very fine line here, and don't think this won't go beyond the invisible walls of MT... $300 is a small price to pay to save face. I'd loose my busniess if I tried to pull this shit on my customers, even if it was a misunderstanding of sorts. Customer is almost always right...

edit to add: That would seem like the logical thing to do, but OP doesn't have much faith in you to hope to see money back AFTER you get the kit back - I suggest 50% up or 3rd party negotiator, hope you two work it out :makeout:

if you really want to continue to use this as an outlet for selling you'd eat some shit on this one, refund the money, and try to sell it to someone else.

2&3) Irrelevant as it doesn't matter what his intentions are after the sale. You are turning something that is objective into something subjective. If he wasn't going to sell it would you feel differently?

4) That is really not an option as you can't use that formula and then he be able to go out and purchase said parts for that price to make a complete kit. You have to either provide the parts, provide the money to get the parts from some source that has them readily available, or give a full refund if asked for.

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Now stfu and give the man his money back. No one cares what you have or what you said. The customer is always right so man up and pay him back.

If you actually read through the screen shots he put up and could click on the links you would understand. He put up a link as to what the kit he thought I had was then the kit I had and the parts that were missing. All that was missing was this:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=13

...and some valve that comes with the AEM kit that doesnt with this one that he also whined about....:loser:

He wanted a kit, he got one, now I will refund him for this kit:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=9

$285(what he paid)/$433(MSRP)=66%

.66*$172=$113

That's my deal. I'm not refunding without the kit and I doubt he wants to send it back without cash. Like I said, take or leave it.

Your "deal" is shit. You failed as a seller, and it's your responsibility to make things right. Your buyer has no motivation to screw you over. Make it right.

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Haha, good one. You feel good about having screwed someone out of $300?

The thing is, if spd579 though he didnt fuck over the buyer, he'd have no problem taking the 'kit' back and selling it to someone else for a fair price. Its clearly been misrepresented so that is why he does not want it back....

I meant yours... :facepalm:

This. Especially since he claims the buyer "lowballed" him and everything. Should be no problem to take the kit back, and resell it for a better price.

This is what he got for $285:

http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=9


Dont really think that's screwing him out of $300.

Ok, as soon as I get it, I'll refund. Waiting....

Yes you fucking piece of shit.
If he lowballed you all you had to say was "no thanks".
You sold him the kit, fucked him over, and now using that as an excuse?

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You will in the near future be shocked at how tightly knit this community is, how far it extends, and what its capable of doing. Good luck with your future sales.

You are saying that all that was missing was a part that costs $172 but you aren't willing to provide the part or the means to get one, but simply a discounted partial refund, that doesn't really rectify the situation.

You can't just say, he wanted a kit and got one. He did get a kit, but not the one you advertised. He asked if it was the FM kit and you said yes minus the gauge. It is on you to provide the shortcomings through the actual part, money to be able to buy the part from a readily available source, or refunding the entire kit. There is no other real option that you can offer. Any percentage derived from the MSRP and sales price to determine what you are willing to refund is asinine and illogical.

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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
This. Especially since he claims the buyer "lowballed" him and everything. Should be no problem to take the kit back, and resell it for a better price.


Ok, as soon as I get it, I'll refund. Waiting....

No, you screwed it up, so you make it right. Why should the buyer trust you to do the right thing when you've already demonstrated you are resistant to doing it?

You've already proven to be dishonest. Why would he send the kit back without a refund first? Hope you don't plan on keeping your miata.

This is why I buy exclusively from supporting members. People who actually give a fuck about fellow miataians, and aren't trying to make a huge profit off their own community.

spd579 is scum. Refund the money, then never log back on MT. You're only digging the hole deeper, pal.

The next time spd579 logs in, I'm just going to auto-forward him to cr.net. Same thing; he's going to a car forum.

Well you see, I just bought this 50" Sony Plasma from Crutchfield but they sent me a 50" Phillips LED instead. When I called and asked "WTF?", they told me it was comparable in price to the Sony and that if I didnt like it to just re-sell it to someone else. So I guess this is common business practice even among the best of them. :dunno:

There is simply no way I'm sending you this kit so you can keep the money AND the parts. You've shown here that you're utterly untrustworthy, if not an out-an-out liar and you don't seem to care at all if this $300 follows you around the internet for the rest of your life.

I would have to be a fool to just send you this kit on your worthless word that you will send me some of my money back. You screwed up. The only way you come out of this looking like anything but a complete piece of trash is to either go on Paypal and click that little 'Refund' button, or sending me enough money to buy the missing parts.

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You don't get to just take this conversation to PMs at this point.

I have tried to be professional and courteous through all of this. I warned you several times what I was willing to do if you didn't take care of me, and your response was to ignore me like I wouldn't dare do it. Well this isn't high school, and I'm not the kind of guy who just throws $300 down the drain just to keep from having a confrontation on the internet. Hate it for you.

To the rest of that PM, your incentive is to do the right thing, to try to save SOME face. It really doesn't matter if I got my money's worth or not. I didn't get what I paid for, and what I did get is useless to me. I didn't go out of my way to trash your rep. All I had to do was post all of our PMs, and your actions have spoken pretty clearly for themselves.



Now, I know how much it sucks to eat it on a deal like this. I gave a guy back $1500 a couple of weeks ago in a somewhat similar situation:

http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=51201

I'm willing to ask the mods to delete this thread if you'll give me a refund. Your parts will be on the brown truck back to you within 24 hours. If you don't, I can guarantee that this thread will follow you around for the rest of eternity. People who don't suck really hate to see people who do suck get away with sucking.

You know, I bought his door bars from him (spd) and he didn't mention anything in the for sale thread about including pay pal fees. So I paypal'd him the 250 (advertised for 250 shipped) and he writes back saying that I need to still send the other 3% or whatever or I should have sent it as a gift. This whole thing weirded me out a little. I'm not sending 250 bucks to a stranger as a gift. Also, if you want your paypal fees, be up front in the for sale thread about it.

All that aside, I got my door bars and they were exactly as mentioned in the for sale thread. Even shipped quick.

Paypal sent :bowrofl:

Good deal, but why is it funny?

Thank you for doing the right thing.

?? ohhh, not really really funny, just pretend thats a bowing motion like im giving up. But yea, this is a little funny to me as this whoe situation has been blown way out of proportion. I've been in his situation before (sending gifts on paypal instead of a regular payment) and it was my fault for not getting all the info so I had to eat it. you'll never see me on here whining and complaining about my own stupidity and ignorance. I just hope this little payment I sent keeps him off the streets and off welfare. :loser: