MEGAsquirt A place to collectively sort out this megasquirt gizmo

18 psi with no FMIC. I smell another RatFuck

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-10-2007, 07:43 PM
  #21  
:(
Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

Originally Posted by Ben
the fans essentially work the same. MS turns on the driver's side fan at a set CLT and the passenger's side fan with the ac. The only difference is you can control what temp the driver's fan comes on at, and at its default setting it comes on noticably earlier (175F?).

One of the mods on my to do list is to wire in the oem thermoswitch to the passenger side fan so it would come on either with the ac or at the oem fan trip temp (210F?). Basically that would give me a 2 stage fan system.
to qoute ben on Fan control My tstat is the lowest temperature one i could find and the ambient temps where overcast humid and in the mid 80's i see no problem with running 170 F if the value is correct if it is not correct i am gonna be pissed and go out and buy a oil cooler and a big ole koyo cause i dont like **** getting that hot period. And Y8s most interiors in the sun get around 120-130 max the plastic would start deforming if the temps got much higher.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 09-10-2007, 08:22 PM
  #22  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,493
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

the temp of you thermostat doesn't dictate the temp of your water. the car should be happy running at 190-200° the fans kick on at 207°.

It's wrong and your being half-assed about it. the end. come on richard! where do you have room to talk down to all the noobs...you need to pull a resistor from the MB or reflash the firmware with the correct bias settings for the CLT sensor. The AIT sensor just proves you are lazy. Both and AIT and CLT sensors are higly important on how the MS fuels your ride.
Braineack is offline  
Old 09-10-2007, 08:31 PM
  #23  
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
Default

Originally Posted by magnamx-5
to qoute ben on Fan control My tstat is the lowest temperature one i could find and the ambient temps where overcast humid and in the mid 80's i see no problem with running 170 F if the value is correct if it is not correct i am gonna be pissed and go out and buy a oil cooler and a big ole koyo cause i dont like **** getting that hot period. And Y8s most interiors in the sun get around 120-130 max the plastic would start deforming if the temps got much higher.
what's the fan control got to do with it?
brainy is speakin' the truth man. you needs to fix yo ****. the car was designed to run 200F
I cruise at 203-206 or so.
__________________
Chief of Floor Sweeping, DIYAutoTune.com & AMP EFI
Crew Chief, Car Owner & Least Valuable Driver, HongNorrthRacing

91 Turbo | 10AE Turbo | 01 Track Rat | #323 Mazda Champcar

Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Ben is offline  
Old 09-10-2007, 10:45 PM
  #24  
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
jayc72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,908
Total Cats: 1
Default

If there was a ghetto award ....
jayc72 is offline  
Old 09-10-2007, 10:57 PM
  #25  
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
cjernigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8,091
Total Cats: 7
Default

Your MS wasn't built to control the fans Richy. It was paralleled into the ECU to do spark, fuel and maybe idle if i remember correctly. Nothing more or less.
cjernigan is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 04:25 AM
  #26  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
richyvrlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Warrington/Birmingham
Posts: 2,642
Total Cats: 42
Default

and to think of the pasting I got on here for my home make knock sensor mount......at least I have properly located sensors, and the wiring tidied away...

Seriously Magna, spend a weekend tidying that **** up!
richyvrlimited is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 04:29 AM
  #27  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
richyvrlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Warrington/Birmingham
Posts: 2,642
Total Cats: 42
Default

Originally Posted by Ben
what's the fan control got to do with it?
brainy is speakin' the truth man. you needs to fix yo ****. the car was designed to run 200F
I cruise at 203-206 or so.

and running lower than that is BAD for the engine, especially when you're 'pressing on'

what's 170F? 76Deg?? for reference the LINK ECU will NOT datalog until the coolant temps reach 80degrees....
richyvrlimited is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 10:20 AM
  #28  
Junior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
leshok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bakersfield, Ca
Posts: 154
Total Cats: 0
Default

wow 18psi!
leshok is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 10:52 AM
  #29  
y8s
2 Props,3 Dildos,& 1 Cat
iTrader: (8)
 
y8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fake Virginia
Posts: 19,338
Total Cats: 573
Default

Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
and to think of the pasting I got on here for my home make knock sensor mount......at least I have properly located sensors, and the wiring tidied away...

Seriously Magna, spend a weekend tidying that **** up!

some people collect action figures.

I'm going to start collecting photos and posts about questionable engineering in DIY turbo kits.
y8s is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 11:14 AM
  #30  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
richyvrlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Warrington/Birmingham
Posts: 2,642
Total Cats: 42
Default

Originally Posted by y8s
some people collect action figures.

I'm going to start collecting photos and posts about questionable engineering in DIY turbo kits.
LOL

you'll be pleased to know my DIY mount has now gone...... the proper mount seems to perform exactly the same unfortunately i.e. I get a boatload of false knock :(
richyvrlimited is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 11:29 AM
  #31  
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
cjernigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8,091
Total Cats: 7
Default

An you have the knocksense right?
The developer said that I can use the KS with the stock knock sensor I have, hoping it will work fine for me.
cjernigan is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 11:51 AM
  #32  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
richyvrlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Warrington/Birmingham
Posts: 2,642
Total Cats: 42
Default

Originally Posted by cjernigan
An you have the knocksense right?
The developer said that I can use the KS with the stock knock sensor I have, hoping it will work fine for me.
I thought the stock MK2 knock sensor was the wrong type?

I've twiddled about with the adjustment **** till I'm blue in the face, but no dice for me unfortunately. If i put a bit of cheap fuel in to induce knock, I can set the sensor to pick it up and kill it, but once I get over 3.5/4k the LED lights permanently. Obviously I can tell MS to ignore this false knock, but that isn't a solution at all IMO.

If i adjust the unit to not ignice from the engine noise, it then doesn't pick up any knock whatsoever.

Maybe I have a particularly noisy engine - the charger definately adds to the noise - but for me unfortunately the unit doesn't perform as I'd hoped :(
richyvrlimited is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 12:36 PM
  #33  
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
reddroptop's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 789
Total Cats: 1
Default

I am amazed that block doesn't have a hole through it yet.

Jesus, AIT in the engine bay not the intake tract.
reddroptop is offline  
Old 09-11-2007, 02:03 PM
  #34  
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
cjernigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 8,091
Total Cats: 7
Default

Originally Posted by richyvrlimited
I thought the stock MK2 knock sensor was the wrong type?
(
I sent him an email and he said he's seen that sensor and that it should work fine. The connector won't work but i'll figure that part of it out. Reverant built his own circuit as listed in the MSE manual and uses the same stock sensor. Don't see why it wouldn't work. Guess i'll try it. My solid lifters are pretty quite and I don't have any other rattles so maybe i'll have better luck with a turbo system.
cjernigan is offline  
Old 09-12-2007, 04:07 AM
  #35  
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
richyvrlimited's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Warrington/Birmingham
Posts: 2,642
Total Cats: 42
Default

Originally Posted by cjernigan
I sent him an email and he said he's seen that sensor and that it should work fine. The connector won't work but i'll figure that part of it out. Reverant built his own circuit as listed in the MSE manual and uses the same stock sensor. Don't see why it wouldn't work. Guess i'll try it. My solid lifters are pretty quite and I don't have any other rattles so maybe i'll have better luck with a turbo system.
good stuff I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, At some point I need to remove my charger and dump rattling heatshieds etc, hopefully that will improve the situation somewhat
richyvrlimited is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 02:09 AM
  #36  
Elite Member
iTrader: (16)
 
patsmx5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 9,293
Total Cats: 475
Default

Holy **** Richard!!! I swear You have got to learn how to solder and do profesional electrical. You could burn your car down with that mess of wires. OMG.
patsmx5 is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 07:38 AM
  #37  
:(
Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

Those are all the LC1 bullshit. why they give you 100ft of wire and it all is 30 guage i will never know. I was thinking about cleaning it up but i dunno now
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 07:50 AM
  #38  
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
Default

I have extra LC1 cable looped up too, up under the relay panel/master cyl area.

That's no excuse for those wire nuts
__________________
Chief of Floor Sweeping, DIYAutoTune.com & AMP EFI
Crew Chief, Car Owner & Least Valuable Driver, HongNorrthRacing

91 Turbo | 10AE Turbo | 01 Track Rat | #323 Mazda Champcar

Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Ben is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 07:54 AM
  #39  
:(
Thread Starter
iTrader: (7)
 
magnamx-5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: nowhere
Posts: 8,255
Total Cats: 4
Default

Why they work. Wire nuts=simple and works nuf said.
magnamx-5 is offline  
Old 09-15-2007, 12:11 PM
  #40  
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
m2cupcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,486
Total Cats: 372
Default

Are you out getting AIT data now? I'm very curious.
m2cupcar is offline  


Quick Reply: 18 psi with no FMIC. I smell another RatFuck



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:02 PM.