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Fueling issue: 100VE at idle, 94VE in boost

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Old 05-08-2018, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
are you not using the ve idle table?

PW = REQ_FUEL * VE * MAP * E + accel + Injector_open_time

looking at your VE table posted above:
PW = 5 * 112/100 * 180/100 * 1 + 1.3 = 11.38 ms.
PW = 5 * 96/100 * 100/100 * 1 + 1.3 = 6.1 ms.
PW = 5 * 101/100 * 30/100 * 1 + 1.3 = 2.815 ms.
I believe he's using incorporate AFR, so there should be a (1 / target lambda) in there.
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Originally Posted by 18psi


no. ms2pnp = no cl idle ve
table switch based on RPM = 16x16 idle VE table
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Old 05-08-2018, 02:07 PM
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if he's using incorporate it makes more sense because the AFR target is added to the algorithm.

so yeah: (Stoich/AFRtarget) is added in.


looking at your VE table posted above:
PW = 5 * 1.12 * 1.8 * 1 * 1.28 + 1.3 = 14.202 ms.
PW = 5 * .96 * 1 * 1 * 1.28 + 1.3 = 7.44 ms.
PW = 5 * 1.01 * .30 * 1 * 1 + 1.3 = 2.815 ms.

you can see it added a lot more fuel, but idle stayed the same since I "targeted" stoich.

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You dont have 4 squirts turned on by any chance?
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
if he's using incorporate it makes more sense because the AFR target is added to the algorithm.

so yeah: (Stoich/AFRtarget) is added in.


looking at your VE table posted above:
PW = 5 * 1.12 * 1.8 * 1 * 1.28 + 1.3 = 14.202 ms.
PW = 5 * .96 * 1 * 1 * 1.28 + 1.3 = 7.44 ms.
PW = 5 * 1.01 * .30 * 1 * 1 + 1.3 = 2.815 ms.

you can see it added a lot more fuel, but idle stayed the same since I "targeted" stoich.
hmm, so disabling it should basically be a really good way to test this. will try

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You dont have 4 squirts turned on by any chance?
nope. checked that many times lol
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:02 PM
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Yes. But save the tune. Incorporate is technically better. Need to Target a new afr? Just change the target, tuning done.
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18, did you find anything wrong? Or are you accepting this flat curve as normal for this set-up?
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We kept tuning. Car runs as it should. I still don’t consider it normal but don’t want him wasting money on parts if we don’t know the culprit.
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