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Old 04-07-2008, 05:07 PM   #41
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vista wont let you save things in the program files folder....is lame!


copy the files somewhere else, then open them up and save, then copy and paste them over the files you wanna change. that shoudl work.
Yeah, that's what we did for the .ini file. But then it wouldn't let us access the msq file. vista = turd.
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:18 PM   #42
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Vista wouldn't allow us to save the changes to the ini, nor would it allow up to open the msq in notepad. It was frustrating.
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vista wont let you save things in the program files folder....is lame!
No ****? Seems like every successive generation of Windows does more and more hand-holding and idiot proofing, but historically there's always been a simple way to bypass it. Like XP- initially it won't let you view the contents of /Program Files or /Windows, but there's a button right there that says "I'm not an idiot, let me in."

Guess I didn't realize that so many people were already using Vista. I've still got 2000 on my in-car PC, and XP Pro on all of my other machines. Just haven't seen a compelling reason to upgrade yet.
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It's a security feature, just hasn't been implemented properly. There are a lot of improvments to security, some are just a little rough around the edges. The thing to understand is that the majority of computer users are idiots that do need to have their hands held and to protect them from themselves.

Microsoft Operating systems suck *** AT LEAST until the first service pack is rolled out. I wouldn't run Vista on anything I cared strongly about until after April 15th's SP1 is released to the wild.

Back OT ... my LC1 appears to run fine. But how do you know?
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:31 PM   #44
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not when you read the manual and see this:

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See and this is where you're wrong. You assume that everyone can read.

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It's a security feature, just hasn't been implemented properly. There are a lot of improvments to security, some are just a little rough around the edges. The thing to understand is that the majority of computer users are idiots that do need to have their hands held and to protect them from themselves.

Microsoft Operating systems suck *** AT LEAST until the first service pack is rolled out. I wouldn't run Vista on anything I cared strongly about until after April 15th's SP1 is released to the wild.

Back OT ... my LC1 appears to run fine. But how do you know?
I hope youre right, but something tells me even after the SP Vista is still going to be an over bloated bitch just like OSX.

I am happy that XP Sp3 came out. I already made myself a new unnattended CD with tweaks, addons and all the trimmings I need for smooth and seamless installs.

XP will never die. Its the last of the Windows OS's that let you decide how you want your computer to work.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:21 PM   #45
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Bothersome that such basic functionality is crippled.

For those of you who can remember back to the days when 80x25 with functional upper and lower-case was pretty cutting edge, have you tried editing the file from the command line? I'm not sure if the old EDIT.COM application is still included with Vista, but it's definitely in XP and I still use it from time to time.

Seems that if this protection is something that's happening at the GUI level, then going at it this way might work. If it's a filesystem protection, then I suspect there's just nothing for it.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:21 PM   #46
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i can still open msqs in notepad....ben fails!
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:11 PM   #47
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not when you read the manual and see this:

2.3 Electrical Grounding Concerns The electrical environment inside a car provides unique challenges, combining high voltages and currents, low-voltage signals, convoluted signal paths, and variable conditions (i.e., fans turning on and off, or starter cranking).

When using precision electronics, it is important for ALL electronics to share a common ground. Remember that “Ground” is more than just the return path for any circuit- it is also the reference against which any voltage is measured.
Yup read that. However there's still room to get it wrong as it is grounded to same place as all of the rest of the electronics. Of course there's a minute difference between "sharing" and running a separate ground to the same location as everything else. Right now it's using it's sharing a ground with the stock ECU but just to be very very sure I'm going to run an independent line.
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not when you read the manual and see this:

1. The BEST grounding scheme is all grounds (i.e., ECU, Gauges, LC1 heater, LC1 system, etc.) SOLDERED into a single lug and bolted to the engine block.

2. The next best is all grounds attached to the same source, as close as possible, but on separate lugs. This is because even the corrosion between lugs can create ground offset and noise. Incidentally, this is why many ECUs have separate ground wires for injectors vs. ECU system ground- separating high voltages and low voltages reduces noise.

3. Grounding to the engine block is usually better than grounding to the frame.
To reduce the number of ground leads going through the firewall, howzabout running just one really fat one, say 8 or 10 awg, that goes from the block to a ground bus behind the stereo? Then ground everything to that bus with crimped-on lugs? Just need a copper block with several 10-32 threads in it. It would be behind the stereo so it should be safe from corrosion, heat. Is this sound logic?

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